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Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:43 pm
by Knightro
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Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:45 pm
by MartinsIzAfraud
Read that and got excited only to realize it’s a swap… got excited thinking maybe it’s a 1st to throw in for Herro.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:45 pm
by eyriq
Whoa, love it. Pretty much saying we expect to be better than the Suns in 3 seasons.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:47 pm
by Def Swami
For a team that pretty much neglects the second round of the draft, this is a nice way to parlay some assets that were probably going to be wasted into something positive. It's a sneaky good deal. Kevin Durant will be 37 in 2026. Who knows what the Suns look like in 3 years. The Magic would hopefully be a playoff team and could potentially make a swap with Phoenix to move up in the draft assuming the Suns fallout. Good move!

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:49 pm
by fendilim
Not bad. 2’d round picks are getting valuable now. Glad we stacked up.

Wonder which picks we gave out

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:51 pm
by eyriq
These kind of moves crack me up. It's kind of like one front office is spitting in the face of the other

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:59 pm
by MartinsIzAfraud
How do we own 26 pick swap when Washington has it from the Beal trade.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:01 pm
by Knightro
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Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:01 pm
by bigdogdylan5
Ok so am I understanding this right that the Wizards will be able to swap then we will have the opportunity to swap. So for us to use this we have to be better than the wizards and the suns in practice.

For example of suns get 9th pick wizards get 15th and we get like 20 we would get the 15th pick correct? I hope those seconds are some of our worst. But again we don’t use them and have too many.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:02 pm
by Knightro
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Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:02 pm
by pepe1991
How is this even possible? Suns gave up pick swap to Wizards, so Magic can only swap pick if Wizards don't OR if Wizards swap, Magic can swap after?

So best case 20th pick? Odds of both Wizards and Suns sucking in 3 years seem very low

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:03 pm
by MartinsIzAfraud
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Sooo it’s just us getting rid of 2nds for nothing

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:05 pm
by Knightro
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Ok so am I understanding this right that the Wizards will be able to swap then we will have the opportunity to swap. So for us to use this we have to be better than the wizards and the suns in practice.

For example of suns get 9th pick wizards get 15th and we get like 20 we would get the 15th pick correct? I hope those seconds are some of our worst. But again we don’t use them and have too many.


You have it mostly right.

Washington gets the right to swap first and Orlando gets the right to swap second with whatever Phoenix ends up with after the first swap.

Orlando just needs to be better than Phoenix in the 25-26 season to get a benefit here.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:06 pm
by Knightro
pepe1991 wrote:How is this even possible? Suns gave up pick swap to Wizards, so Magic can only swap pick if Wizards don't OR if Wizards swap, Magic can swap after?

So best case 20th pick? Odds of both Wizards and Suns sucking in 3 years seem very low


The latter.

Washington gets to swap first.

Orlando gets to swap second.

The goal for the Magic would be to have a very good record in 25-26 and swap from like 25 up to like 19 or something.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:08 pm
by bigdogdylan5
Knightro wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Ok so am I understanding this right that the Wizards will be able to swap then we will have the opportunity to swap. So for us to use this we have to be better than the wizards and the suns in practice.

For example of suns get 9th pick wizards get 15th and we get like 20 we would get the 15th pick correct? I hope those seconds are some of our worst. But again we don’t use them and have too many.


You have it mostly right.

Washington gets the right to swap first and Orlando gets the right to swap second with whatever Phoenix ends up with after the first swap.

Orlando just needs to be better than Phoenix in the 25-26 season to get a benefit here.

Unlikely but what if the wizards are better than us (gulp…) but we are still better than Phx, so the pix swaps with Washington then we would just keep our better pick.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:12 pm
by D12VCMagic
We are unlikely to see this swap. The Wizards get first dibs so we can only swap if we are the best of the three teams in 2026 and the Wizards are the worst. Possible I suppose, but this just seems like an excuse to unload more second round picks.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:20 pm
by eyriq
So there is the slight wrinkle of needing to be better than the Wizards as well. Wizards are almost inconsequential to this calculus I think.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:23 pm
by fendilim
If ever we use this swap, I think the jump will be minimal.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:24 pm
by Knightro
I admit I am assuming Washington will easily be the worst team of the three in the 25-26 season.

Re: Magic acquire a 2026 1st round pick swap from Phoenix for three 2nd round picks

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:27 pm
by eyriq
Knightro wrote:I admit I am assuming Washington will easily be the worst team of the three in the 25-26 season.


And honestly the Wizards could be better than the Suns. As long we are are better than both we swap picks.