Magic doing another cool Million to the OMYF

[davey_wavy]

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-youth-foundation-set-to-distribute-1-million-dollars-through-three-grant-cycles-20230814

I know it's old news now but I can't help but bit** about this. We do another Million to our youth foundation (which is over 50% African American youth) and that's a fantastic cause and I love it for the kids of Orlando. No mention though of it in the media, just very little if any.

We give a measley 50k... 50k... (Can't even buy you a fully loaded Honda with that these days) to Ron and it's balls to the wall the Magic are racists, bigots, and are demonized by league, pundits, and players association themselves. Holy sh** does the media 100% control the narrative. It's disgusting man.

Im venting, and I know these are two separate circumstances, but doesn't this at least piss anyone else off, just a little bit? Sorry mods but this topic is for us Magic Fans, if I would have posted it in CA I doubt any of us would have seen it

[SOUL]

Good on them!

We give a measley 50k... 50k... (Can't even buy you a fully loaded Honda with that these days) to Ron and it's balls to the wall the Magic are racists, bigots, and are demonized by league, pundits, and players association themselves. Holy sh** does the media 100% control the narrative.

You are proving the point people have been saying though. The Magic are very involved in the community and do tons of great things. That should be what is reported. Most people are fine with owners making donations outside of using their team's name - it's a really simple concept that I think people are just willfully ignoring because they like DeSantis or vote Republican. And nobody has said that much prior to this because tons of owners donate to conservatives and it's not talked about often since it's done under their names or family. Don't sully your reputation by donating with your team's name to any politician, who are at worst spineless and at best neutered by the other side once they get into office.

If a similar donation was given to a Democrat that had a recent controversial take on trans-rights or abortion or made some very anti-patriotic remark or something equally inflammatory to the right (idk, maybe you guys can give a better example ) akin to DeSantis wanting to soften the blow on American history by sanitizing slavery and saying they learned skills from it.. then it's truly just a bad idea to do it all around when the "other side" can sensationalize it. No matter what side I lean politically, I would argue against it under the basis of how stupid it is to align your team with anyone, even tangentially, when there's no reason to do that at all in the first place.

Optics matter.

Sorry mods but this topic is for us Magic Fans, if I would have posted it in CA I doubt any of us would have seen it.

This will probably get locked because of what it'll turn into but I'll see how it goes for a day.

[JoshuaPotter]

I am OK with it being locked.

I work for an employer and that employer makes political decisions that often doesn't line up with not just my interests but the freedoms I hold value to.

It's always been that way though. One way, or another. Didn't matter if it was right or left because I disagreed with it either way.

[Fortune Teller]

The Orlando Magic Youth Foundation has done great things in this community for years, and we're grateful for it. But let's be real, all pro teams support charitable causes, and it's not controversial to do so. Ron DeSantis's campaign for president is not a charitable cause, and his positions are controversial. (Ex: Certain school districts here now only teach excerpts of Shakespeare's plays rather than the full texts, for fear of violating DeSantis's "Don't Say Gay" law. Apparently the Orlando Magic organization officially supports this).

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192767641/shakespeare-florida-excerpts-dont-say-gay#:~:text=ORLANDO%2C%20Fla.,'t%20Say%20Gay%22%20laws.

The Magic contributing $50,000 to his Super-PAC in the team's name was unusual, that's why it got media attention. The NBPA issued an official statement condemning the donation, that's why it got media attention. DeSantis has waged a very public war against Disney, the only corporation on the team's jerseys, and the Magic organization now officially supports DeSantis, that's why it got media attention. You can blame the liberal media all you want, but there were good reasons why this story got traction.

[Skybox]

This is a benign, positive, non-controversial good cause...my inflammatory posts were not left or right, they were marketing and PR based recommendations....team donations and this board should also be "not left or right"...it's just good business. Do that stuff elsewhere and avoid unneeded conflicts.

Yes...this ultra-generous move will be largely ignored (except by all the people involved and the kids it gives a hand to). The other one was a relatively minimal amount and caused controversy...that's the whole point, choose wisely and choose directions that won't risk alienating half of your ticket-buying base...even if they're petty or childish or whatever...just don't antagonize ANY of your target market without a really good reason.

[Redwood]

This is a benign, positive, non-controversial good cause...my inflammatory posts were not left or right, they were marketing and PR based recommendations....team donations and this board should also be "not left or right"...it's just good business. Do that stuff elsewhere and avoid unneeded conflicts.

Yes...this ultra-generous move will be largely ignored (except by all the people involved and the kids it gives a hand to). The other one was a relatively minimal amount and caused controversy...that's the whole point, choose wisely and choose directions that won't risk alienating half of your ticket-buying base...even if they're petty or childish or whatever...just don't antagonize ANY of your target market without a really good reason.

Bowing down to the perpetually offended mob is exactly why there's a perpetually offended mob. If people can't understand that there are other viewpoints to hold in this world, and that people are free to donate their own money to whoever they please, then that's their own deficiency and we don't need to pretend otherwise. The overwhelming amount of money being donated by media corporations, Hollywood, social media companies, NBA players, etc...are to leftist causes. Should the right cry and complain about each of those donations? Should news articles be written about each of those donations?

This is all silly and just further proof that most information in society is controlled and disseminated by left leaning people and organizations. That's why this was made into an issue, not because it ever actually was one.

[Skybox]

This is a benign, positive, non-controversial good cause...my inflammatory posts were not left or right, they were marketing and PR based recommendations....team donations and this board should also be "not left or right"...it's just good business. Do that stuff elsewhere and avoid unneeded conflicts.

Yes...this ultra-generous move will be largely ignored (except by all the people involved and the kids it gives a hand to). The other one was a relatively minimal amount and caused controversy...that's the whole point, choose wisely and choose directions that won't risk alienating half of your ticket-buying base...even if they're petty or childish or whatever...just don't antagonize ANY of your target market without a really good reason.

Bowing down to the perpetually offended mob is exactly why there's a perpetually offended mob. If people can't understand that there are other viewpoints to hold in this world, and that people are free to donate their own money to whoever they please, then that's their own deficiency and we don't need to pretend otherwise. The overwhelming amount of money being donated by media corporations, Hollywood, social media companies, NBA players, etc...are to leftist causes. Should the right cry and complain about each of those donations? Should news articles be written about each of those donations?

This is all silly and just further proof that most information in society is controlled and disseminated by left leaning people and organizations. That's why this was made into an issue, not because it ever actually was one.

that's all very dramatic and righteous...but smart businesses avoid drama. Donate and politick on a personal level...absolutely.

"War is bad for business" - Don Vito Corleone

If it's that important to the leader(s) of a corp. of any kind, have at it...but don't expect people of opposing views to approve. Why is it only offensive when it comes back in a financial or PR backlash? If it's so important to 'fight the mob' - go for it, piss off whoever you want, take the heat, tell them they can take their business elsewhere....admirable integrity (I guess) but dumb business decision.

Everyone knows where the Devos family leans and that's no issue...ORL Magic is a lot more subject to scrutiny.

[UCFJayBird]

Eh. Context matters. The Magic donating to their youth foundation is great, but when they do it all the time it's not realistic to expect the media to make a big deal out of it. It's great. But the media isn't going to highlight it. But the owners making a political donation through the team instead of their own names is highly unusual (especially given the politician involved and controversies surrounding him), so of course it's going to get attention.

This is akin to the news not running stories when a child dies of cancer (a sad event, but one that doesn't bring in views and isn't all that unusual, though tragic all the same), but wall to wall coverage when the kid is murdered by his parents. A child dying of cancer isn't going to get much attention. A kid being murdered by his parents will be covered for months and is going to get that attention, because it's not common and people are more likely to pay attention it.

Yes it sucks the media focuses so much on the negative and will highlight the bad stuff and skip over the good. But that's because that's what people pay attention to. Good news will get some attention, especially unique situations. But for the most part, negative stuff will always dominate people's attention. It sucks, but not sure there's a real solution out there.

[davey_wavy]

The Orlando Magic Youth Foundation has done great things in this community for years, and we're grateful for it. But let's be real, all pro teams support charitable causes, and it's not controversial to do so. Ron DeSantis's campaign for president is not a charitable cause, and his positions are controversial. (Ex: Certain school districts here now only teach excerpts of Shakespeare's plays rather than the full texts, for fear of violating DeSantis's "Don't Say Gay" law. Apparently the Orlando Magic organization officially supports this).

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192767641/shakespeare-florida-excerpts-dont-say-gay#:~:text=ORLANDO%2C%20Fla.,'t%20Say%20Gay%22%20laws.

The Magic contributing $50,000 to his Super-PAC in the team's name was unusual, that's why it got media attention. The NBPA issued an official statement condemning the donation, that's why it got media attention. DeSantis has waged a very public war against Disney, the only corporation on the team's jerseys, and the Magic organization now officially supports DeSantis, that's why it got media attention. You can blame the liberal media all you want, but there were good reasons why this story got traction.

I just read this post out loud to my cousin Natasha across the room (she's Gay) and she wanted me to remind you that nowhere in that bill you mentioned does it say "don't say Gay"

That's coming from a gay liberal sitting on the couch across from me

[UCFJayBird]

The Orlando Magic Youth Foundation has done great things in this community for years, and we're grateful for it. But let's be real, all pro teams support charitable causes, and it's not controversial to do so. Ron DeSantis's campaign for president is not a charitable cause, and his positions are controversial. (Ex: Certain school districts here now only teach excerpts of Shakespeare's plays rather than the full texts, for fear of violating DeSantis's "Don't Say Gay" law. Apparently the Orlando Magic organization officially supports this).

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192767641/shakespeare-florida-excerpts-dont-say-gay#:~:text=ORLANDO%2C%20Fla.,'t%20Say%20Gay%22%20laws.

The Magic contributing $50,000 to his Super-PAC in the team's name was unusual, that's why it got media attention. The NBPA issued an official statement condemning the donation, that's why it got media attention. DeSantis has waged a very public war against Disney, the only corporation on the team's jerseys, and the Magic organization now officially supports DeSantis, that's why it got media attention. You can blame the liberal media all you want, but there were good reasons why this story got traction.

I just read this post out loud to my cousin Natasha across the room (she's Gay) and she wanted me to remind you that nowhere in that bill you mentioned does it say "don't say Gay"

That's coming from a gay liberal sitting on the couch across from me

Yes and the constitution doesn't contain the word freedom, but we all know it's there.

[davey_wavy]

The Orlando Magic Youth Foundation has done great things in this community for years, and we're grateful for it. But let's be real, all pro teams support charitable causes, and it's not controversial to do so. Ron DeSantis's campaign for president is not a charitable cause, and his positions are controversial. (Ex: Certain school districts here now only teach excerpts of Shakespeare's plays rather than the full texts, for fear of violating DeSantis's "Don't Say Gay" law. Apparently the Orlando Magic organization officially supports this).

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192767641/shakespeare-florida-excerpts-dont-say-gay#:~:text=ORLANDO%2C%20Fla.,'t%20Say%20Gay%22%20laws.

The Magic contributing $50,000 to his Super-PAC in the team's name was unusual, that's why it got media attention. The NBPA issued an official statement condemning the donation, that's why it got media attention. DeSantis has waged a very public war against Disney, the only corporation on the team's jerseys, and the Magic organization now officially supports DeSantis, that's why it got media attention. You can blame the liberal media all you want, but there were good reasons why this story got traction.

I just read this post out loud to my cousin Natasha across the room (she's Gay) and she wanted me to remind you that nowhere in that bill you mentioned does it say "don't say Gay"

That's coming from a gay liberal sitting on the couch across from me

Yes and the constitution doesn't contain the word freedom, but we all know it's there.

The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I appreciate your attempt

[UCFJayBird]

I just read this post out loud to my cousin Natasha across the room (she's Gay) and she wanted me to remind you that nowhere in that bill you mentioned does it say "don't say Gay"

That's coming from a gay liberal sitting on the couch across from me

Yes and the constitution doesn't contain the word freedom, but we all know it's there.

The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I appreciate your attempt

I meant the originally ratified constitution, not once the Bill of Rights were amended. But yes, the amendments then start to cite the actual word freedom.

edit: Regardless if we get into semantics (i'll concede the freedom not being in the constitution argument is flimsy at best), the point is that the implications and impacts of laws are not always spelled out in specificity. The law might not say something specifically, but can still have those impacts.

Perhaps a better example, the Affordable Healthcare Act never says Obamacare, but that's all Republicans called it, right?

[davey_wavy]

Wait a second, let's back up a few steps.

Are you saying that you, UCFJayBird, oppose the "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

[Fortune Teller]

Wait a second, let's back up a few steps.

Are you saying that you, UCFJayBird, oppose the "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

And you realize that what a bill’s sponsor calls a bill is often intentionally misleading, right? That’s for voters who don’t read the actual prohibitions in the bill because no one is in favor of the sexualization of children, right? So this must be a good law! At its heart it’s a censorship policy, and that’s how it’s being interpreted.

[BadMofoPimp]

I find it hilarious and at the same time hypocritical that a thread had to be made because one side hates donations to the other side as if it should be against the law to be a republican. I am sure republicans do the same, but this is epic funny. How dare you donate to a party that is not mine!!!!

[davey_wavy]

Wait a second, let's back up a few steps.

Are you saying that you, UCFJayBird, oppose the "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

And you realize that what a bill’s sponsor calls a bill is often intentionally misleading, right? That’s for voters who don’t read the actual prohibitions in the bill because no one is in favor of the sexualization of children, right? So this must be a good law! At its heart it’s a censorship policy, and that’s how it’s being interpreted.

I've read the Bill. Twice.

So with that being said:

You too, Fortune Teller, are opposed to "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

[UCFJayBird]

Wait a second, let's back up a few steps.

Are you saying that you, UCFJayBird, oppose the "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

That's not the name of the bill. And yes, I'm opposed to the "Parental Rights in Education" bill (HB 1557), otherwise known as the "Don't Say Gay" bill. And no, I'd rather not get into a debate on the bill itself as that's off topic and won't serve any purpose other than to exhaust both of us, lol.

[davey_wavy]

Wait a second, let's back up a few steps.

Are you saying that you, UCFJayBird, oppose the "STOP THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN ACT" in Schools (also known as HB 1557) ?

That's not the name of the bill. And yes, I'm opposed to the "Parental Rights in Education" bill (HB 1557), otherwise known as the "Don't Say Gay" bill. And no, I'd rather not get into a debate on the bill itself as that's off topic and won't serve any purpose other than to exhaust both of us, lol.

Fair enough. What's for dinner

[SOUL]

I find it hilarious and at the same time hypocritical that a thread had to be made because one side hates donations to the other side as if it should be against the law to be a republican. I am sure republicans do the same, but this is epic funny. How dare you donate to a party that is not mine!!!!

My god, the "woe-is-me" snowflake stuff is getting real tiring from the right lately because it's about on par to what a lot of people on the left did and that the right made fun of them for.

NOBODY IS SAYING THAT. THEY ARE SAYING STOP ATTACHING DONATIONS TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY WITH THE TEAM NAME AND YOU WON'T GET **** LIKE THEY HADN'T GOTTEN **** FOR IT THE PAST 20+ YEARS OF DONATING! It's really that simple!

[BadMofoPimp]

I find it hilarious and at the same time hypocritical that a thread had to be made because one side hates donations to the other side as if it should be against the law to be a republican. I am sure republicans do the same, but this is epic funny. How dare you donate to a party that is not mine!!!!

My god, the "woe-is-me" snowflake stuff is getting real tiring from the right lately because it's about on par to what a lot of people on the left did and that the right made fun of them for.

NOBODY IS SAYING THAT. THEY ARE SAYING STOP ATTACHING DONATIONS TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY WITH THE TEAM NAME AND YOU WON'T GET **** LIKE THEY HADN'T GOTTEN **** FOR IT THE PAST 20+ YEARS OF DONATING! It's really that simple!

I reckon Lakers donating to the Democrat party in California is against your rules as well. Or, is that fine since it is your favorite party. They are both corrupt. I don't get the high and mighty flipping out over a donation. It is not illegal and you only have an issue because it isn't for your cause.