Should Orlando Magic Secretly Offer Whatever It Takes For Giannis?

[T-Cat]

This maybe a long shot but if the Bucks were secretly shopping Giannis, a team like Orlando should offer basically everyone but Paolo Banchero right now!

Excluding Jonathan Isaac due to his trade value and Markelle Fultz because they already have Jrue Holiday!

I would offer: Garry Harris, Jalen Suggs, Wendell Carter, Franz Wagner, Anthony Black and multiple first rd picks for Giannis!

Media is already talking about it!

https://youtu.be/n9FrruFFgmI?si=FZl3DqxujEWYWZDZ

[JF5]

No...

[ORLMagicGirl15]

First, I don’t think Bucks would trade Giannis, especially to the East. Second, if by some chance they do trade him to us no way would we be able to keep Paolo. Paolo is going into his second season, they are going to want him along with whomever else they want.

[byeganyo]

Plus, both are pf, if we are to trade for giannis is only logical to put Paolo in the trade.

[Bensational]

If he became available and we could keep Paolo alongside him, then we really should make that move. Surround them with shooters and dominate.

But I don’t see Milwaukee moving Giannis unless he asks out, which he likely won’t do until his PTO in 2 years - unless they really flounder and fall from grace with Bud.

[T-Cat]

If he became available and we could keep Paolo alongside him, then we really should make that move. Surround them with shooters and dominate.

But I don’t see Milwaukee moving Giannis unless he asks out, which he likely won’t do until his PTO in 2 years - unless they really flounder and fall from grace with Bud.

It's the NBA! Crazier things are happening especially when big time players lose in the playoffs!

What ever happens, Orlando has attractive assets to make a move to push them over the top if needed!

[tooler]

Best I can do is Cole Anthony and the Denver pick.

If they play hardball, throw in the coach of the Osceola Magic.

[drsd]

At a basic level, any team should be willing to trade their whole roster for Antetokounmpo. But if the Magic is going to go all in on a mega-splash, Dončić is the guy to trade F-Wagner, a but-load of picks and cap space for.

[MoMM]

At a basic level, any team should be willing to trade their whole roster for Antetokounmpo. But if the Magic is going to go all in on a mega-splash, Dončić is the guy to trade F-Wagner, a but-load of picks and cap space for.

Yes, for Giannis I'd trade Paolo + whatever and keep Franz, and for Doncic I'd trade Franz + whatever, but keep Paolo.

[pepe1991]

Giannis is 28 and top 3 player in a world. Whoever says "no" should be banned from basketball forums.

You can put 4 woods and Giannis and play second round of East next year and probably compete for ECF.

Type of player you trade players, picks, coaches ,arenas for and still win trades.

MVP; DPOY, future HOF, one of faces of nba.

Without even trying to "build " something or think too much about it,, PG : whoever, SG: shooter, SF: Franz, PF Giannis , C whoever you are title contender.

[T-Cat]

Giannis is 28 and top 3 player in a world. Whoever says "no" should be banned from basketball forums.

You can put 4 woods and Giannis and play second round of East next year and probably compete for ECF.

Type of player you trade players, picks, coaches ,arenas for and still win trades.

MVP; DPOY, future HOF, one of faces of nba.

Without even trying to "build " something or think too much about it,, PG : whoever, SG: shooter, SF: Franz, PF Giannis , C whoever you are title contender.

For all that he mind as well stay with the Milwaukee Bucks!

The only difference is he doesn't believe in the Bucks organization and they are capped out from making another major move! They have two years to figure it out!

This situation reminds me of the pre- Dwight Howard situation where he wanted to change in management or else!

[pepe1991]

Giannis is 28 and top 3 player in a world. Whoever says "no" should be banned from basketball forums.

You can put 4 woods and Giannis and play second round of East next year and probably compete for ECF.

Type of player you trade players, picks, coaches ,arenas for and still win trades.

MVP; DPOY, future HOF, one of faces of nba.

Without even trying to "build " something or think too much about it,, PG : whoever, SG: shooter, SF: Franz, PF Giannis , C whoever you are title contender.

For all that he mind as well stay with the Milwaukee Bucks!

The only difference is he doesn't believe in the Bucks organization and they are capped out from making another major move! They have two years to figure it out!

This situation reminds me of the pre- Dwight Howard situation where he wanted to change in management or else!

I'm not sold on notion Bucks can do much given how capped out they are.

Jrue talks about retirment, if he does, they can't replace him ( no cap).
Middelton has been injury prone past two years.
Lopez is one foot into retirment (35).

Bucks today are in desparate need for either another shot creator scorer/shooter or/and pair of fresh legs on wings.

[MasterGMer]

I would do the trade while keeping Paolo. Paolo can play the Center position. Doesn't he already show that in Team USA with Steve Kerr?

I really want to keep Franz but it looks like Milwaukee will want a stud young player.

I will do whatever we can to trade for him. He is the Top player in the league. But the problem is will he stay with us? He only has two years left on his contract with a player option on the 3rd year. If we can not put a Championship team with Giannis, what is the point with us all in?

We need a Championship team with Giannis, period. If we can do that, for example keeping Franz and Paolo, I am all in.

So let me summarize: Put a Championship team while trading for Giannis!

[drsd]

Bucks today are in desparate need for either another shot creator scorer/shooter or/and pair of fresh legs on wings.

You say "Gary" and I say "Harris":

G - A - R - Y H - A - R - R - I - S

[drsd]

Dude: I'd be OK if Stuff was part of a Antetokounmpo trade.

Let's be real here.

[HighPack]

Giannis is 28 and top 3 player in a world. Whoever says "no" should be banned from basketball forums.

You can put 4 woods and Giannis and play second round of East next year and probably compete for ECF.

Type of player you trade players, picks, coaches ,arenas for and still win trades.

MVP; DPOY, future HOF, one of faces of nba.

Without even trying to "build " something or think too much about it,, PG : whoever, SG: shooter, SF: Franz, PF Giannis , C whoever you are title contender.

Yeah yeah yeah right... But he has a back injury, he is big and strong like Dwight was, same story, got injured, now downhill starts.

Lebron played in 10 finals. Banchero is the first guy who looks like him. I would never trade Banchero for Giannis. Giannis is in the top now with only 1 ring, and now downhill starts (and its a sure thing, same as Shaq, Dwight...Big strong players can't compete long term without back injury, when they reach 30 years old they are finished to be number1 players for teams anymore. Giannis has 2 years left and now he is injured man with a back injury..) I don't believe he will be finals mvp again ever.

I believe Banchero will dominate the league in 3-4 years, there is no reason to give up on him.

[pepe1991]

Giannis is 28 and top 3 player in a world. Whoever says "no" should be banned from basketball forums.

You can put 4 woods and Giannis and play second round of East next year and probably compete for ECF.

Type of player you trade players, picks, coaches ,arenas for and still win trades.

MVP; DPOY, future HOF, one of faces of nba.

Without even trying to "build " something or think too much about it,, PG : whoever, SG: shooter, SF: Franz, PF Giannis , C whoever you are title contender.

Yeah yeah yeah right... But he has a back injury, he is big and strong like Dwight was, same story, got injured, now downhill starts.

Lebron played in 10 finals. Banchero is the first guy who looks like him. I would never trade Banchero for Giannis. Giannis is in the top now with only 1 ring, and now downhill starts (and its a sure thing, same as Shaq, Dwight...Big strong players can't compete long term without back injury, when they reach 30 years old they are finished to be number1 players for teams anymore. Giannis has 2 years left and now he is injured man with a back injury..) I don't believe he will be finals mvp again ever.

I believe Banchero will dominate the league in 3-4 years, there is no reason to give up on him.

Ring count at age of 28
Lebron 0
Shaq 1
Larry Bird 1
Kareem 1
Steph 2 (won second at age of 28)
Durant 1 ( won at age of 28 first)
Jokic 1

Verey selective few won multiple championships at that age, mostly due how nba is constructed.


Giannis is easly one of most dominant players since Shaq. He isn't injury prone ( never played less than 61 games ), and even if he declines, very, very, very few players can actually contain his physicality as guy is 6'11- 250 pounds -7'3 wingspan- built like a greek god player. For crying out loud,guy averages 32-12-6-1-1. Those are cartoonish numbers . In nba finals he scored 50 in last game to win title.

I don't believe he will be finals mvp again ever.

You realize that next time Giannis is FA about 30 teams will try to make superteam around him to guarantee him cakewalk to nba finals and eventual championship, right? Execlly what Heat, Cavs, Lakers did to Lebron. That's why it's important to know that most nba superstars didn't won many rings at his age, because they were stuck on mediocre teams that didn't know how to build around them.


Banchero isn't Lebron. It's just silly. Lebron was most hyped player in nba history, Banchero wasn't sure-shot-first -overall pick up until hour before draft. He is high volumen scorer today. What he will be ? Who knows. NBA is filled with "next big thing " that never lived to a hype. For crying out loud, most GMs would rather take Victor over Banchero today with Victor having 0 games played.



Giannis vs Banchero debate really isn't worth entertaining, imagine it's 2011 and you are arguing you would take Blake Griffin over Lebron . That's pretty much execlly same case. You would probably also guarantee that Lebron never win title. Lot of people did. Lebron was ringless, got as****ped by some random scrub from Dallas in finals. Dwarfed by Dirk.

[basketballRob]

The Magic aren't going to trade the whole roster for one player until they see what they have already. We have no idea what the ceiling is of our current roster. We could have 5 allstars on the roster already, we don't know.

We had TMac in his prime and only won 20-something games.

We turned over the whole roster to get TMac and Grant Hill. In hindsight, we should've kept Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups and had tons of flexibility and draft picks. No one knew Billups was going to be a 7x all-star, and Wallace was going to be a 4x defensive player of the year.








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[HighPack]

Ring count at age of 28
Lebron 0
Shaq 1
Larry Bird 1
Kareem 1
Steph 2 (won second at age of 28)
Durant 1 ( won at age of 28 first)
Jokic 1

Verey selective few won multiple championships at that age, mostly due how nba is constructed.


Giannis is easly one of most dominant players since Shaq. He isn't injury prone ( never played less than 61 games ), and even if he declines, very, very, very few players can actually contain his physicality as guy is 6'11- 250 pounds -7'3 wingspan- built like a greek god player. For crying out loud,guy averages 32-12-6-1-1. Those are cartoonish numbers . In nba finals he scored 50 in last game to win title.

I don't believe he will be finals mvp again ever.

You realize that next time Giannis is FA about 30 teams will try to make superteam around him to guarantee him cakewalk to nba finals and eventual championship, right? Execlly what Heat, Cavs, Lakers did to Lebron. That's why it's important to know that most nba superstars didn't won many rings at his age, because they were stuck on mediocre teams that didn't know how to build around them.

Banchero isn't Lebron. It's just silly. Lebron was most hyped player in nba history, Banchero wasn't sure-shot-first -overall pick up until hour before draft. He is high volumen scorer today. What he will be ? Who knows. NBA is filled with "next big thing " that never lived to a hype. For crying out loud, most GMs would rather take Victor over Banchero today with Victor having 0 games played.

Giannis vs Banchero debate really isn't worth entertaining, imagine it's 2011 and you are arguing you would take Blake Griffin over Lebron . That's pretty much execlly same case. You would probably also guarantee that Lebron never win title. Lot of people did. Lebron was ringless, got as****ped by some random scrub from Dallas in finals. Dwarfed by Dirk.

I would never took Blake over Lebron beacause Blake came in the league injured, my whole point is injury. Only guards can recover 100% from a big injury, Curry, Kobe, Jordan lots of examples... Lots of examples PFs and Cs can't recover 100%. You said Giannis played every year 60 more games, yeah and he was dominant almost like Shaq, so that will cost him soon. 28 years not the same for a guy who is dominant inside the paint and don't have outside game.

With a superteam Giannis can win rings, but i highly doubt over 30 he will be the number 1 player on that team, he can be a 2nd option like AD or Shaq in Miami. And the shooting guard takes the finals mvp like Wade.

Giannis has 2 more dominant years in NBA, and he will go with maximum effort, and with Bucks, and he will be injured because of that.

Banchero's favourite player is Lebron and he is copying his moves and mentality. Also he has the body for it. It's promising. Giannis with a back injury is not promising.

You are the guy who thinks AD is a walking glass but Giannis has no injuries. AD played first six seasons more than 60 games, maximum effort with a horrible team, thats the price, the injury. Giannis is injured now and he will be more. He is a damaged product, just open the box man.

[Blue_and_Whte]

First, I don’t think Bucks would trade Giannis, especially to the East. Second, if by some chance they do trade him to us no way would we be able to keep Paolo. Paolo is going into his second season, they are going to want him along with whomever else they want.

Everyone…. They’d want everyone…. And all of our picks.