Purely speculative but Cade Cunningham, Paolo and Franz would bring us our chip.

The-Stallion70 · Post #1 » by **The-Stallion70** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:01 pm

And yes this would naturally fall in line with Martins' grand design of our 2030 championship.

Detroit looks awful, just recorded an NBA record 27th straight loss.

This idea is just purely fun because Cade will take his 5 year $300m to stay in Detroit but after that? As it stands now it looks he'll be wearing his "That's all folks" shirt like Anthony Davis did in his last game in New Orleans and splitting town.

Paolo Franz amd Cade would be a match made in heaven.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #2 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:14 pm

Who is giving Cade $300 million and why? He has played 106 games. 6 more than Paolo. How have he earned $300m?

JoshuaPotter · Post #3 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:17 pm

We have a trade thread.

Post #4 » by **eyriq** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:21 pm

If I'm Detroit, Cade is untouchable. I'd look to cycle in a new batch of complimentary veterans with a strategy of adding experience. They still need to invest heavily in player development, and the coaching staff needs to find some rotations that work. This is unnatural, they aren't this bad. They'll add another lotto ticket, and have enough that maybe two all-stars are on this team through organic development. That's the only course I can see open to them.

Maybe they even just start retooling around Cade, moving, without great evidence, to build around him as their franchise player. They could be desperate enough.

But regardless of their approach they cannot trade Cade. That would be such a horrible setback.

The-Stallion70 · Post #5 » by **The-Stallion70** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:22 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Who is giving Cade $300 million and why? He has played 106 games. 6 more than Paolo. How have he earned $300m?

You really don't think he's going to get the full five year supermax from Detroit? Because he will.

And the 5 year supermax will be basically that much when he signs it.

The-Stallion70 · Post #6 » by **The-Stallion70** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:23 pm

eyriq wrote:If I'm Detroit, Cade is untouchable. I'd look to cycle in a new batch of complimentary veterans with a strategy of adding experience. They still need to invest heavily in player development, and the coaching staff needs to find some rotations that work. This is unnatural, they aren't this bad. They'll add another lotto ticket, and have enough that maybe two all-stars are on this team through organic development. That's the only course I can see open to them.

Maybe they even just start retooling around Cade, moving, without great evidence, to build around him as their franchise player. They could be desperate enough.

But regardless of their approach they cannot trade Cade. That would be such a horrible setback.

He's certainly untouchable in a trade but if either you or Potter read my post, you would see that this is referring to when his upcoming contract extension expires.

The-Stallion70 · Post #7 » by **The-Stallion70** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:25 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:We have a trade thread.

This is not referring to a trade.

VFX · Post #8 » by **VFX** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:59 pm

How is Orlando acquiring Cade?

Why does Orlando want another Forward that can't shoot exceptionally well from 3?

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #9 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:58 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Who is giving Cade $300 million and why? He has played 106 games. 6 more than Paolo. How have he earned $300m?

You really don't think he's going to get the full five year supermax from Detroit? Because he will.

And the 5 year supermax will be basically that much when he signs it.

In order to get the super max as a rookie, you have to get an MVP or all nba selection. Technically it is still possible for him to get either and if he does he’d earn it, but as of right now, he didn’t earn $300m.

JoshuaPotter · Post #10 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:37 pm

MagicMatic wrote:How is Orlando acquiring Cade?

Why does Orlando want another Forward that can't shoot exceptionally well from 3?

Our fanbase will not rest until we get duplicity through every single position 15 players deep with Lebron in summer league trying to crack the roster.

byeganyo · Post #11 » by **byeganyo** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:39 am

Have any of you watched Cade and if yes, why so? He plays for the maybe worst team in the history. His stats are the quintessential empty stats till he show that can lead to something at least remotely substantial.

MagicFan101 · Post #12 » by **MagicFan101** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:02 am

I feel Ja Morant + Anthony Edwards + Jaren Jackson Jr is the smarter path for building around Franz and Paolo.

Post #13 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:43 pm

The Pistons compounding all the mistakes they've made with roster construction by trading the one guy with any sort of promise for more assets to rebuild again would be insane, knee-jerk mismanagement. I think Cunningham is going to be good and would love him on our team. The Pistons moving Cunningham should be the absolute last thing on their task list.

drsd · Post #14 » by **drsd** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:43 pm

Teams will not be able to afford three max players moving forward.

pepe1991 · Post #15 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:27 am

If i'm in charge of Pistons my first moves would be:
Knox- vaiwed
Wiseman- g league
Bagley- vaiwed

This is pretty much execlly what's wrong with them. Playing players who are waste of space, have no basketball talent ( for that level) yet only exist on rosters due having draft stock from past.

They are negative value on court, they *probably* bring negative attitude , are self entitled and never actually bothered to work and improve their game.
Wiseman is copy past same player he was 4 years ago. Knox got worst somehow over time.

Instad, i would bring from unsigned FA like i don't know, nor care Birch, Stanley Johnson, whoever is hard worker (even with very little talent). Just to show young guys that nothing is for granted and that you need to bust your a** every day to get better, and by doing so that will help team and keep you imployed.

The-Stallion70 · Post #16 » by **The-Stallion70** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:13 am

Def Swami wrote:The Pistons compounding all the mistakes they've made with roster construction by trading the one guy with any sort of promise for more assets to rebuild again would be insane, knee-jerk mismanagement. I think Cunningham is going to be good and would love him on our team. The Pistons moving Cunningham should be the absolute last thing on their task list.

Once again if you cared to read it this is not referring to a trade

The-Stallion70 · Post #17 » by **The-Stallion70** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:14 am

MagicFan101 wrote:I feel Ja Morant + Anthony Edwards + Jaren Jackson Jr is the smarter path for building around Franz and Paolo.

Sure once we convince the league to expand our teams' salary cap to 400m

The-Stallion70 · Post #18 » by **The-Stallion70** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:21 am

drsd wrote:Teams will not be able to afford three max players moving forward.

Franz will not get paid on the same level as Cade or Paolo's.

Franz' deal will look more like DeAndre Ayton's.

VFX · Post #19 » by **VFX** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:57 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
drsd wrote:Teams will not be able to afford three max players moving forward.

Franz will not get paid on the same level as Cade or Paolo's.

Franz' deal will look more like DeAndre Ayton's.

How do you know this?

JoshuaPotter · Post #20 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:48 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:
drsd wrote:Teams will not be able to afford three max players moving forward.

Franz will not get paid on the same level as Cade or Paolo's.

Franz' deal will look more like DeAndre Ayton's.

How do you know this?

How does that imply we will still be able to afford Franz?

I am pretty confident that if Franz hit the free agent market today he would be at near max level. Is he a max player today? No. His trajectory tracks at the moment.

Edit : whether or not he is worth max is another story on too many levels. Cap rules what they are and what teams are willing to spend will likely dictate that going forward.