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Rumor today is Milwaukee Bucks has interest in Dejounte Murray

The wide range expectation is that Atlanta Hawks want at least 2 first round picks

I know Wendell has been on the rumor mill but he has been playing great lately. Also another rumor is that Orlando is shopping Markelle Fultz also

Will you trade some of our expiring plus two FRPs to get Dejounte Murray?

I know I know Magic is not ready to contend yet because Paolo is 21 and Franz is only 22. But adding a ball control guard like Dejounte Murray may not be a bad idea. But the problem is will the front office do it.

Many of you have been right when Emmanuel Quickley was on the trade market and it would be good if Orlando Magic worked on a deal. So is the case for Simons and Brogdan.

But this Magic organization has not been aggressive in trade talks and the only thing came out is Patience. Should we be patient this season or should we actually improve our team and compete?

If I can vote, I will say let's trade for Dejounte Murray

Something has to change because after tonight and watching this team live the other night in Atlanta.. this life long Magic fan is tapped out. Sick of wasting my time and energy supporting this franchise.

Thank god I have the Braves starting up right around the corner.

Can we get a PG who can shoot instead?

CLosP wrote:Can we get a PG who can shoot instead?

huh?

Voted NO. I'm fully aboard the AB train. Go get a better version of Gary Harris to come off the bench behind Suggs and roll with AB/Suggs/Cole/Upgraded Harris through the good times and the bad.

eyriq wrote:Voted NO. I'm fully aboard the AB train. Go get a better version of Gary Harris to come off the bench behind Suggs and roll with AB/Suggs/Cole/Upgraded Harris through the good times and the bad.

Who's to say we can't trade Murray 2 or 3 years from now if AB is the better player then? I say, go get a starting guard and make sure AB gets minutes as a backup to develop.

Ask Paolo not us

MasterGMer wrote:Rumor today is Milwaukee Bucks has interest in Dejounte Murray

The wide range expectation is that Atlanta Hawks want at least 2 first round picks

I know Wendell has been on the rumor mill but he has been playing great lately. Also another rumor is that Orlando is shopping Markelle Fultz also

Will you trade some of our expiring plus two FRPs to get Dejounte Murray?

I know I know Magic is not ready to contend yet because Paolo is 21 and Franz is only 22. But adding a ball control guard like Dejounte Murray may not be a bad idea. But the problem is will the front office do it.

Many of you have been right when Emmanuel Quickley was on the trade market and it would be good if Orlando Magic worked on a deal. So is the case for Simons and Brogdan.

But this Magic organization has not been aggressive in trade talks and the only thing came out is Patience. Should we be patient this season or should we actually improve our team and compete?

If I can vote, I will say let's trade for Dejounte Murray

Only 2 first rd picks...sign me up. I was thinking at least 3 would be needed.

They probably will definitely want one of Suggs or Black I would think if it is just 2 1st rd picks imo.

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thelead wrote:

eyriq wrote:Voted NO. I'm fully aboard the AB train. Go get a better version of Gary Harris to come off the bench behind Suggs and roll with AB/Suggs/Cole/Upgraded Harris through the good times and the bad.

Who's to say we can't trade Murray 2 or 3 years from now if AB is the better player then? I say, go get a starting guard and make sure AB gets minutes as a backup to develop.

I think Murray is just an OK guard. Lets say he's the 27th best guard in the league.

20. FVV
21. Jamal Murray
22. McCollum
23. Rozier
24. Garland
25. White
26. Herro
27. Dejounte Murray
28. Coby White
29. Zach LaVine
30. Anfernee

Something like that. A good guard, better than what we got, but at 27 years old he's kind of locked into being a quality starter. I'd honestly rather hand the starting role over to Black, I think he can be top 30 guard sooner rather than later, especially if we give him the opportunities that Franz and Paolo got.

RookieStar wrote:Ask Paolo not us

this. is the beef between the 2 over? if not, no reason to cause issues

Even if we wanted to, a trade between division rivals is unlikely to happen.

I thought about him for a while but i am against getting him. Point guard needs to keep team together and Murray is immature, and not liked by his teammates. It would end up as a drama sooner or later. He got in a childish dispute with Paolo already. Problem waiting to happen.

Skin wrote:Even if we wanted to, a trade between division rivals is unlikely to happen.

There’s no such thing as division rivals in the NBA.

Not when 10 out of 15 teams in the conference make some sort of playoffs.

Worth considering.

No brainer....Mose and FO apparently can't play guys that don't defend (Jett?) but will play guys with ZERO offense (Black, Fultz, Isaac)...then= pony up whatever it takes for one of the RARE guys that can do both.

He CAN and does shoot. He also scores in other ways. He gets lots of steals, lots of deflections, lots of assists, lots of rebounds (for a guard). He's healthy and on a reasonable contract. If he can be had for Fultz's carcass and picks - I'd send out 2 of our own with reasonable catastrophic protection and DEN pick or multiple srps.

IQ was my favorite target, given his youth...but, honestly, you'd just be hoping IQ became DJM. IQ will also probably get paid around the same this summer - DJM is much bigger, longer, and under contract for 4 more seasons. Murray also has a nasty streak that I think Suggs and Paolo share. They will feed off each other's intensity. Suggs and Murray w/Black off the bench will make for a very unpleasant evening for opposing guards (then when we add a Claxton or healthy Isaac at the rim...)Murray is putting up numbers next to the most shot-happy, assist-hoarding, ball-dominant dwarf in the league. Let's not overthink this.

Knightro wrote:

Skin wrote:Even if we wanted to, a trade between division rivals is unlikely to happen.

There’s no such thing as division rivals in the NBA.

Not when 10 out of 15 teams in the conference make some sort of playoffs.

TOR and NYK are direct division rivals, both with significant talent, neither in tank mode - who happen to be suing each other over ethical stuff and they just pulled off the biggest trade of the offseason-so far.

eyriq wrote:

thelead wrote:

eyriq wrote:Voted NO. I'm fully aboard the AB train. Go get a better version of Gary Harris to come off the bench behind Suggs and roll with AB/Suggs/Cole/Upgraded Harris through the good times and the bad.

Who's to say we can't trade Murray 2 or 3 years from now if AB is the better player then? I say, go get a starting guard and make sure AB gets minutes as a backup to develop.

I think Murray is just an OK guard. Lets say he's the 27th best guard in the league.

20. FVV
21. Jamal Murray
22. McCollum
23. Rozier
24. Garland
25. White
26. Herro
27. Dejounte Murray
28. Coby White
29. Zach LaVine
30. Anfernee

Something like that. A good guard, better than what we got, but at 27 years old he's kind of locked into being a quality starter. I'd honestly rather hand the starting role over to Black, I think he can be top 30 guard sooner rather than later, especially if we give him the opportunities that Franz and Paolo got.

27 is a pretty big upgrade and if he is reliable and consistent even better.

He can create on his own , get his own shot, and has played solid defense in the past.

Wish he was better 3pt shooter consistently and hadn’t acted like a headcase with multiple players including Paolo. He hasn’t lately as far as I know?

It’s interesting he ignored the coach wanting a timeout and made no attempt to find young when he hit the last wining shot against us.

I’m not sure how good a teammate he would be but putting aside being a questionable teammate and headcase his potential reward is higher if it goes right over Tyus Jones or Brogdon.

Tyus Jones would be solid for a couple of years but would be easy for Black to over take him. Tyus would probably accept a bench role on a playoff team in the future. The problem with that is I don’t think you can play him when Cole is on the floor.

RichCollab wrote:

eyriq wrote:

thelead wrote:Who's to say we can't trade Murray 2 or 3 years from now if AB is the better player then? I say, go get a starting guard and make sure AB gets minutes as a backup to develop.

I think Murray is just an OK guard. Lets say he's the 27th best guard in the league.

20. FVV
21. Jamal Murray
22. McCollum
23. Rozier
24. Garland
25. White
26. Herro
27. Dejounte Murray
28. Coby White
29. Zach LaVine
30. Anfernee

Something like that. A good guard, better than what we got, but at 27 years old he's kind of locked into being a quality starter. I'd honestly rather hand the starting role over to Black, I think he can be top 30 guard sooner rather than later, especially if we give him the opportunities that Franz and Paolo got.

27 is a pretty big upgrade and if he is reliable and consistent even better.

He can create on his own , get his own shot, and has played solid defense in the past.

Wish he was better 3pt shooter consistently and hadn’t acted like a headcase with multiple players including Paolo. He hasn’t lately as far as I know?

It’s interesting he ignored the coach wanting a timeout and made no attempt to find young when he hit the last wining shot against us.

I’m not sure how good a teammate he would be but putting aside being a questionable teammate and headcase his potential reward is higher if it goes right over Tyus Jones or Brogdon.

Tyus Jones would be solid for a couple of years but would be easy for Black to over take him. Tyus would probably accept a bench role on a playoff team in the future. The problem with that is I don’t think you can play him when Cole is on the floor.

REALLY hoping FO is not prioritizing "easy to over take" this TD and summer, when all of the variables are in place for a significant leap forward at our greatest position of need. DJM is one of the few guys that would make our offense AND defense better immediately. His intensity will only be compounded with Paolo & Suggs' mindsets.

RichCollab wrote:

eyriq wrote:

thelead wrote:Who's to say we can't trade Murray 2 or 3 years from now if AB is the better player then? I say, go get a starting guard and make sure AB gets minutes as a backup to develop.

I think Murray is just an OK guard. Lets say he's the 27th best guard in the league.

20. FVV
21. Jamal Murray
22. McCollum
23. Rozier
24. Garland
25. White
26. Herro
27. Dejounte Murray
28. Coby White
29. Zach LaVine
30. Anfernee

Something like that. A good guard, better than what we got, but at 27 years old he's kind of locked into being a quality starter. I'd honestly rather hand the starting role over to Black, I think he can be top 30 guard sooner rather than later, especially if we give him the opportunities that Franz and Paolo got.

27 is a pretty big upgrade and if he is reliable and consistent even better.

He can create on his own , get his own shot, and has played solid defense in the past.

Wish he was better 3pt shooter consistently and hadn’t acted like a headcase with multiple players including Paolo. He hasn’t lately as far as I know?

It’s interesting he ignored the coach wanting a timeout and made no attempt to find young when he hit the last wining shot against us.

I’m not sure how good a teammate he would be but putting aside being a questionable teammate and headcase his potential reward is higher if it goes right over Tyus Jones or Brogdon.

Tyus Jones would be solid for a couple of years but would be easy for Black to over take him. Tyus would probably accept a bench role on a playoff team in the future. The problem with that is I don’t think you can play him when Cole is on the floor.

I don't entirely understand what the front office plan was with Fultz and two lotto talent guards. Were they really thinking that Fultz would earn a contract to be the starter for the immediate future?

I think... well, I actually think they did think he would earn a starting PG extension. I don't want to believe this because it implies they really did draft to stash lotto talent on the deep bench and G-League, which is absolutely asinine.

Lets say they do indeed consider the starting PG role open for audition and Fultz was the leading candidate. This audition has failed completely. The job is clearly not his. What was their plan for this scenario? I hate to admit this but the alternate course is very likely to shop for a starting guard via trade or free agency.

My preference though is to start Black.