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Bensational wrote:SOUL is basically the Ingles of the board now. Semi-retired chill glue guy who doesn’t mind some ****.

Bensational wrote:SOUL is basically the Ingles of the board now. Semi-retired chill glue guy who doesn’t mind some ****.

davey_wavy wrote:Does SOUL ever start sht with opposing mods from other team boards?

basketballRob wrote:Another show saying Franz shouldn't get the max at 52:00.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2C2QXP3wcjgxEuxsHTYXjw?si=GTQQd3eHTn2MmEeXlZuHEg

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Not only does Wagner have the statistical production to warrant a max contract extension, his archetype is one of the most valuable to have in the league.

As a jumbo wing who can create offense for himself off the dribble and play off-ball, he's shown the potential to grow into a star forward, someone who's a walking mismatch and a constant headache for opposing defenses to try to contain. Add in his defensive prowess, and he's already one of the most complete players in the league.

If he continues to grow his game, a second contract max extension would wind up a bargain for a 6-foot-10, two-way Swiss army knife that is putting up the numbers he has.

doct3r dr3 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

This guy did a nice run-through of an "ideal offseason". TL;DR version:

1. Draft Kel'el Ware and Bronny James

2. Trade Jett Howard, Caleb Houstan, 2025 FRP & 2029 FRP for Anfernee Simons

3. Sign Luke Kennard, Jeff Green, & Jordan McLaughlin

doct3r dr3 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

This guy did a nice run-through of an "ideal offseason". TL;DR version:

1. Draft Kel'el Ware and Bronny James

2. Trade Jett Howard, Caleb Houstan, 2025 FRP & 2029 FRP for Anfernee Simons

3. Sign Luke Kennard, Jeff Green, & Jordan McLaughlin

basketballRob wrote:Lowe calling Franz the worst high volume shooter in the NBA at 110:00.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4NFesATKWOdYqGsvrPUwiX?si=mK69ZA1IRzSW7tRcUAOE1w

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pepe1991 wrote:

basketballRob wrote:Lowe calling Franz the worst high volume shooter in the NBA at 110:00.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4NFesATKWOdYqGsvrPUwiX?si=mK69ZA1IRzSW7tRcUAOE1w

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what a cherrypick.
He literally said " i'm gonna assume it's a fluke"

basketballRob wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:

basketballRob wrote:Lowe calling Franz the worst high volume shooter in the NBA at 110:00.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4NFesATKWOdYqGsvrPUwiX?si=mK69ZA1IRzSW7tRcUAOE1w

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what a cherrypick.
He literally said " i'm gonna assume it's a fluke"

He did point out Franz was the worst high volume shooter in the NBA this season. Magic fans can't admit that.

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pepe1991 wrote:

basketballRob wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:
what a cherrypick.
He literally said " i'm gonna assume it's a fluke"

He did point out Franz was the worst high volume shooter in the NBA this season. Magic fans can't admit that.

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Because it doesn't really matter in terms of evaluation of him.
Avdija and Cade were bricking everything in their 3rd years just to have best years in year 4 ( both playing and shooting vise).

We have 2 college years + Alba Berlin year + 2 NBA years to know he is at least servicable as shooter.

I don't understand your obsession with his max. What's the difference, per year, from him getting max contract and $38M or him getting some $32M .
What's there for Magic to gain? Flexibility to sign 14th man in rotation up par with Biyombo ? ( who makes execlly $6M)

basketballRob wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:

basketballRob wrote:He did point out Franz was the worst high volume shooter in the NBA this season. Magic fans can't admit that.

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Because it doesn't really matter in terms of evaluation of him.
Avdija and Cade were bricking everything in their 3rd years just to have best years in year 4 ( both playing and shooting vise).

We have 2 college years + Alba Berlin year + 2 NBA years to know he is at least servicable as shooter.

I don't understand your obsession with his max. What's the difference, per year, from him getting max contract and $38M or him getting some $32M .
What's there for Magic to gain? Flexibility to sign 14th man in rotation up par with Biyombo ? ( who makes execlly $6M)

Paying a possible 3rd option, the max isn't good team building. I think a contract that starts off at $28m would be fair. That's the difference of having Franz or having Franz and Ingles.

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pepe1991 wrote:

basketballRob wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:
Because it doesn't really matter in terms of evaluation of him.
Avdija and Cade were bricking everything in their 3rd years just to have best years in year 4 ( both playing and shooting vise).

We have 2 college years + Alba Berlin year + 2 NBA years to know he is at least servicable as shooter.

I don't understand your obsession with his max. What's the difference, per year, from him getting max contract and $38M or him getting some $32M .
What's there for Magic to gain? Flexibility to sign 14th man in rotation up par with Biyombo ? ( who makes execlly $6M)

Paying a possible 3rd option, the max isn't good team building. I think a contract that starts off at $28m would be fair. That's the difference of having Franz or having Franz and Ingles.

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and in your opinion what's Suggs and Banchero's value, contract vise?