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I'm figuring I'm opening a thread for this afternoon/evening's second round, considering what I named last night's thread.

Feel free to discuss all the picks, trades, and storylines here. The Magic own the 47th pick at time of writing.

Quick facts:

When is Round 2 of the NBA draft?
The second round of the draft will take place on Thursday, June 27.

What time does Round 2 of the NBA draft start?
The draft will get back underway at 4 p.m. ET.

Where will the draft be televised?
ESPN

What will the Magic do?
Nobody knows.

Should I actually watch this?
Probably not

Draft order (CBSsports)

As for me personally, I've done quite a bit of time looking into this draft, and there's still plenty of prospect that I would love to see on the Orlando Magic. However, most of them should be gone by the time we pick. Anyway, some guys I like (they're not necessarily all great fits for the current Magic, though at some point it's just a value play):

Tyler Smith, Johnny Furphy, Kyle Filipowski, Bobi Klintman, Tyler Kolek, Kevin McCullar Jr., Ajay Mitchell, Ulrich Chomche, Melvin Ajinca, Pelle Larsson, Trentyn Flowers, Harrison Ingram, Jalen Bridges, Keshad Johnson, Cameron Christie, Quinten Post, KJ Simpson, Nikola Djurisic, Cam Spencer.

And of course, you can't forget the Magic's favorite target:

I'm interested in a BIG. No idea who, though

Nikola Djurisic & Antonio Reeves are two guys I’m interested in.

eyriq wrote:I'm interested in a BIG. No idea who, though

from what I have as draftable you could go for: Ulrich Chomche, Oso Ighodaro, Adem Bona, Quinten Post, PJ Hall and Ariel Hukporti (he's German). Maybe Jonathan Mogbo from San Francisco could play some underized C/PF. Honestly it's kind of an underwhelming group, I guess Chomche could eventually start, but he's very much a boom/bust project.

I guess N'Faly Dante from Oregon is draftable, but he screams "guy that got drafted because of his measurables and did absolutely nothing" to me. Honestly, I mostly like the wing group of the second rounders.

Best available.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

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Magic have traded pick 47 & Cole Anthony to.... that would be a WOJ BOMB

It starts at 4 pm est.

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POR has #34 and #40...let's get this inevitable Simons deal done right now and grab #34 while we're at it...they don't need 4 rookies.

I'm really glad I checked in ...had no idea it was at 4pm. Last night was way past my bedtime.

Why in the world would they start it in the middle of the work day???

Skybox wrote:POR has #34 and #40...let's get this inevitable Simons deal done right now and grab #34 while we're at it...they don't need 4 rookies.

I'm really glad I checked in ...had no idea it was at 4pm. Last night was way past my bedtime.

Lol Sky you’re pretty creative with your trade ideas so how are we doing this? What if we had to eat Ayton’s salary in this deal? Is there a way Alton could be included in a package for Simons and we’d be able to cut Ayton?

thelead wrote:Why in the world would they start it in the middle of the work day???

Because Weltman can’t go to bed late 2 nights in a row I believe

Trade for Future SRP

thelead wrote:Why in the world would they start it in the middle of the work day???

Probably because it's the second round.

Also could be there's a presidential debate on tonight?

Wow AJ Griffin just got traded for the 45th pick. Holy moly

cedric76 wrote:Trade for Future SRP

If people ( Spurs ) are giving away the 8th pick for free I guess you’d have to pay someone to take your 2nd round pick

Either third string big or trade it.

three3d wrote:

Skybox wrote:POR has #34 and #40...let's get this inevitable Simons deal done right now and grab #34 while we're at it...they don't need 4 rookies.

I'm really glad I checked in ...had no idea it was at 4pm. Last night was way past my bedtime.

Lol Sky you’re pretty creative with your trade ideas so how are we doing this? What if we had to eat Ayton’s salary in this deal? Is there a way Alton could be included in a package for Simons and we’d be able to cut Ayton?

Ayton's just too much and has 2 more years at around $35m per...I've tried to talk myself into it, but

I kind of like an Ayton/Trae core for ATL...I think there could be enough touches for both, especially if 4 per game are lobs to Ayton. He's a freakin' specimen - huge and agile. Just hasn't shown any maturity and doesn't seem willing to accept a secondary role on offense. Maybe Trae could score 25/10 and, as long as Ayton got his 22pts, he would bless his coaching staff with some defensive effort. Perhaps if he had the right defensive-minded PF next to him...

POR sends: Ayton, Robert Williams
POR gets: Capela (expiring), Cole Anthony, lots of salary relief
POR values the relief of getting their two questionable Centers out of Clingan's way. Capela is a one-year expiring mentorship or flipped at TD or just expiring $22m. Cole Anthony makes POR comfortable with moving Simons out for draft capital or other prospects...generally speaking, taking on Cole's $13m to get off of 2 suddenly redundant or even troublesome players at $47m

ATL sends: Murray, Capela
ATL gets: Ayton, Isaac, Jett Howard
ATL goes all-in on Trae + a huge, young, skilled Center with a very complimentary dirty work complementary Isaac at PF. The core duo needs to be surrounded by shooters and Howard fits the bill, along with their existing guys. If they want Bogdonavic and his "bad attitude" exit interview out of town...ORL happily adds a legit frp and absorbs his salary.

ORL sends: Isaac, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray, Robert Williams
moving Isaac hurts, but could also be a sell-high before his next deal move, Robert Williams is an elite defending role player when healthy - can't complain about injury risks when selling high on Isaac. Murray is the real prize and ORL matches up with anyone's 5.

I don't think value is too far off...to the point where I didn't even add picks. The whole key is ATL seeing the potential of Ayton, who plays like an All-Star or just pouts...Feed the big baby and he'll love you forever. Isaac cleans up the defensive messes and maybe even gets through to Ayton, by example. Ayton could really thrive as a legit, respected Co-Star but playing 4th Chair in PHX's offense just wasn't acceptable to him. If he blows up in ATL, after being disrespected by "lowly" POR drafting Clingan, he'll have his victory.

Stop Encouraging Me

Skybox wrote:

three3d wrote:

Skybox wrote:POR has #34 and #40...let's get this inevitable Simons deal done right now and grab #34 while we're at it...they don't need 4 rookies.

I'm really glad I checked in ...had no idea it was at 4pm. Last night was way past my bedtime.

Lol Sky you’re pretty creative with your trade ideas so how are we doing this? What if we had to eat Ayton’s salary in this deal? Is there a way Alton could be included in a package for Simons and we’d be able to cut Ayton?

Ayton's just too much and has 2 more years at around $35m per...I've tried to talk myself into it, but

I kind of like an Ayton/Trae core for ATL...I think there could be enough touches for both, especially if 4 per game are lobs to Ayton. He's a freakin' specimen - huge and agile. Just hasn't shown any maturity and doesn't seem willing to accept a secondary role on offense. Maybe Trae could score 25/10 and, as long as Ayton got his 22pts, he would bless his coaching staff with some defensive effort. Perhaps if he had the right defensive-minded PF next to him...

POR sends: Ayton, Robert Williams
POR gets: Capela (expiring), Cole Anthony, lots of salary relief
POR values the relief of getting their two questionable Centers out of Clingan's way. Capela is a one-year expiring mentorship or flipped at TD or just expiring $22m. Cole Anthony makes POR comfortable with moving Simons out for draft capital or other prospects...generally speaking, taking on Cole's $13m to get off of 2 suddenly redundant or even troublesome players at $47m

ATL sends: Murray, Capela
ATL gets: Ayton, Isaac, Jett Howard
ATL goes all-in on Trae + a huge, young, skilled Center with a very complimentary dirty work complementary Isaac at PF. The core duo needs to be surrounded by shooters and Howard fits the bill, along with their existing guys. If they want Bogdonavic and his "bad attitude" exit interview out of town...ORL happily adds a legit frp and absorbs his salary.

ORL sends: Isaac, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray, Robert Williams
moving Isaac hurts, but could also be a sell-high before his next deal move, Robert Williams is an elite defending role player when healthy - can't complain about injury risks when selling high on Isaac. Murray is the real prize and ORL matches up with anyone's 5.

I don't think value is too far off...to the point where I didn't even add picks. The whole key is ATL seeing the potential of Ayton, who plays like an All-Star or just pouts...Feed the big baby and he'll love you forever. Isaac cleans up the defensive messes and maybe even gets through to Ayton, by example. Ayton could really thrive as a legit, respected Co-Star but playing 4th Chair in PHX's offense just wasn't acceptable to him. If he blows up in ATL, after being disrespected by "lowly" POR drafting Clingan, he'll have his victory.

Stop Encouraging Me

I forgot to grab #34

thelead wrote:Why in the world would they start it in the middle of the work day???

To avoid the Presidential Debate I assume.

Skybox wrote:

Skybox wrote:

three3d wrote:
Lol Sky you’re pretty creative with your trade ideas so how are we doing this? What if we had to eat Ayton’s salary in this deal? Is there a way Alton could be included in a package for Simons and we’d be able to cut Ayton?

Ayton's just too much and has 2 more years at around $35m per...I've tried to talk myself into it, but

I kind of like an Ayton/Trae core for ATL...I think there could be enough touches for both, especially if 4 per game are lobs to Ayton. He's a freakin' specimen - huge and agile. Just hasn't shown any maturity and doesn't seem willing to accept a secondary role on offense. Maybe Trae could score 25/10 and, as long as Ayton got his 22pts, he would bless his coaching staff with some defensive effort. Perhaps if he had the right defensive-minded PF next to him...

POR sends: Ayton, Robert Williams
POR gets: Capela (expiring), Cole Anthony, lots of salary relief
POR values the relief of getting their two questionable Centers out of Clingan's way. Capela is a one-year expiring mentorship or flipped at TD or just expiring $22m. Cole Anthony makes POR comfortable with moving Simons out for draft capital or other prospects...generally speaking, taking on Cole's $13m to get off of 2 suddenly redundant or even troublesome players at $47m

ATL sends: Murray, Capela
ATL gets: Ayton, Isaac, Jett Howard
ATL goes all-in on Trae + a huge, young, skilled Center with a very complimentary dirty work complementary Isaac at PF. The core duo needs to be surrounded by shooters and Howard fits the bill, along with their existing guys. If they want Bogdonavic and his "bad attitude" exit interview out of town...ORL happily adds a legit frp and absorbs his salary.

ORL sends: Isaac, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray, Robert Williams
moving Isaac hurts, but could also be a sell-high before his next deal move, Robert Williams is an elite defending role player when healthy - can't complain about injury risks when selling high on Isaac. Murray is the real prize and ORL matches up with anyone's 5.

I don't think value is too far off...to the point where I didn't even add picks. The whole key is ATL seeing the potential of Ayton, who plays like an All-Star or just pouts...Feed the big baby and he'll love you forever. Isaac cleans up the defensive messes and maybe even gets through to Ayton, by example. Ayton could really thrive as a legit, respected Co-Star but playing 4th Chair in PHX's offense just wasn't acceptable to him. If he blows up in ATL, after being disrespected by "lowly" POR drafting Clingan, he'll have his victory.

Stop Encouraging Me

I forgot to grab #34

And forgot we need Simmons lol