Magic Decline Moritz Wagner's Option; Could still return

[drsd]

The Orlando Magic have declined their $8 million team option on Moe Wagner for the 24-25 season. Wagner and the Magic each have interest in discussing a new contract in free agency. The Magic plan to utilize their cap space in the offseason on the open market.

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[RookieStar]

You think if someone offers Moe like a bigger deal he will bolt from us?

[CarraT]

Good move. Go use the cap space. Mo will stay here

[basketballRob]

We can give Moe the same deal he has with more years after we sign free agents using the room exception.

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[drsd]

You think if someone offers Moe like a bigger deal he will bolt from us?

Orlando currently has a single C in its rotation. That must be addressed. It is not a given that M-Wagner will resign. Indeed if he gets a big raise somewhere else, signing Bitadze to a contract upgrade to be the primary backup is not impossible.

[basketballRob]

You think if someone offers Moe like a bigger deal he will bolt from us?

Orlando currently has a single C in its rotation. That must be addressed. It is not a given that M-Wagner will resign. Indeed if he gets a big raise somewhere else, signing Bitadze to a contract upgrade to be the primary backup is not impossible.

I think it's a given that Moe will sign here. They probably already have a deal in place with the room exception, but we need to use our cap space first. Players like Drummond are on the market for minimum deals.

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[cedric76]

You think if someone offers Moe like a bigger deal he will bolt from us?

No, 100% sure that they already agreed that he ll come back under the room exception

It s a done deal

Front Office show talked about it if you r interested (from min 45 https://www.youtube.com/live/Lyj_q-5mYFE?si=K1HFBl-K42dYoO0g)

[Skybox]

I bet they have a tentative reasonable deal.

If DET or whoever came and offered him a big raise, all parties, including Franz, would wish him the best with his new team. No bad blood or hard feeling- some teams are just in better circumstances to overpay…like we were, at the time.

He’ll be back, 90%

[drsd]

I bet they have a tentative reasonable deal.

If DET or whoever came and offered him a big raise, all parties, including Franz, would wish him the best with his new team. No bad blood or hard feeling- some teams are just in better circumstances to overpay…like we were, at the time.

He’ll be back, 90%

And-1

It is not 100% that he would be back. If some team wants to offer M-Wagner 3 years and 40M, he will leave. And I agree that F-Wagner would be happy to wish his brother well.

One thing lost in all this is that M-Wagner would take a 300k pay cut this year on a Room deal. I guess that is made-up by adding an extra year to the deal. Maybe a 3+1 contract on 8M a year?

In conclusion: your 90% is spot on, for me.

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[KillMonger]

Wouldn't be upset with Mo returning

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[JoshuaPotter]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

[basketballRob]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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[JoshuaPotter]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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And this is reported via news where?

[basketballRob]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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And this is reported via news where?

They said the Magic and Moe have a mutual interest to stay here. Everyone knows what was happening. The Magic had a team option and made an agreement with him so they could circumvent the cap. Sure, they aren't going to WESH news and say we're circumventing the cap.

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[fendilim]

Good gracious. The pond is drying. What if he is our second signee this offseason? Hahahahaha

[eyriq]

I can't believe we are leaving him blowing in the wind.

[basketballRob]

I can't believe we are leaving him blowing in the wind.

They already have a deal in place, and it'll be announced after free agency.

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[Skybox]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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Why do you say these things with such certainty? Do you have a source that we're paying our backup C $14m next year?


EDIT: Sorry, I didnt' see where you quoted "Everybody in the NBA"

[eyriq]

I see Mo as testing the waters right now and coming back if he doesn't get a big enough raise. Definitely no hard feelings.

Otherwise, well see. This does make one wonder where the rest of the 30 million will go and we need a center play bigtime about now.

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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Why do you say these things with such certainty? Do you have a source that we're paying our backup C $14m next year?


EDIT: Sorry, I didnt' see where you quoted "Everybody in the NBA"

The room exception kicks in once we hit the cap of 141 and it's like 8 million maybe 600,000 or something like that. And he was only getting 8 million before. So it'd be like $600,000 raise.

[Skybox]

He already has a deal in place to get our room exception that gives him a 6k raise next season. They may give him more years. Everyone in the NBA knows this is happening.

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Why do you say these things with such certainty? Do you have a source that we're paying our backup C $14m next year?


EDIT: Sorry, I didnt' see where you quoted "Everybody in the NBA"

The room exception kicks in once we hit the cap of 141 and it's like 8 million maybe 600,000 or something like that. And he was only getting 8 million before. So it'd be like $600,000 raise.

You know what...he did say 6k...my bad on that part Rob.

There's certainly a strong assumption that they have a deal agreed to, but the terms are not known to us. If DET offers him $15m while he's in limbo, he'll take it and everyone will congratulate him.