Around the League: 2024-25 Season

pepe1991 · Post #1 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 am

New season, new topic. Season is about to start.

According to just about everybody, including GMs, overwhelming title favorites are Celtics.

According to also GMs, Tatum is best SF in a league.
77% of GMs would build their team around Victor.

drsd · Post #2 » by **drsd** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:21 pm

pepe1991 wrote:New season, new topic. Season is about to start.

According to just about everybody, including GMs, overwhelming title favorites are Celtics.

According to also GMs, Tatum is best SF in a league.
77% of GMs would build their team around Victor.

The current ESPN predictions is Boston and OKC as #1 and #2.

Orlando is predicted at 38.7 wins. What a joke.

ESPN: 2024-25 NBA season preview: Rankings, predictions, odds

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Post #3 » by **eyriq** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:29 pm

Give me the under on the Thunder. Slamming that.

pepe1991 · Post #4 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:37 pm

eyriq wrote:Give me the under in the Thunder. Slamming that.

Under what? Espn had them at 51,2

They won 57 games last year, with worst team.

Post #5 » by **Knightro** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:48 pm

eyriq wrote:Give me the under in the Thunder. Slamming that.

Thunder over 57.5 seems like an easy call?

drsd · Post #6 » by **drsd** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:40 pm

Basically, the good teams are undervalued and the bad teams over valued by ESPN.

Boston Celtics 56.0
Over

Oklahoma City Thunder 51.2
Over

New York Knicks 40.6
Over

Denver Nuggets 46.3
Over

Philadelphia 76ers 51.5
Push

Dallas Mavericks 50.3
Over

Minnesota Timberwolves 46.5
Over

Phoenix Suns 42.7
Over

Milwaukee Bucks 46.0
Over

Cleveland Cavaliers 47.5
Push

Memphis Grizzlies 44.4
Over

Indiana Pacers 41.1
Over

Orlando Magic 38.7
Over

Golden State Warriors 41.8
Over

Los Angeles Lakers 42.7
Push

New Orleans Pelicans 42.5
Over

Sacramento Kings 42.5
Over

Miami Heat 44.9
Push

Houston Rockets 42.1
Push

LA Clippers 42.4
Push

San Antonio Spurs 31.0
Push

Atlanta Hawks 36.9
Under

Chicago Bulls 38.2
Under

Toronto Raptors 33.9
Under

Charlotte Hornets 37.0
Push

Utah Jazz 33.1
Push

Detroit Pistons 29.3
Under

Brooklyn Nets 33.5
Under

Portland Trail Blazers 33.1
Under

Washington Wizards 22.4
Under (will they win 10 games ?!?!?!?)

JoshuaPotter · Post #7 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:47 pm

38 wins? Are we watching the same team? They must have found all of Knightros posts about us being overachievers.

drsd · Post #8 » by **drsd** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:04 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:38 wins? Are we watching the same team? They must have found all of Knightros posts about us being overachievers.

For me a central question is: is the Magic better than the Heat. I am a hard yes.

Post #9 » by **Knightro** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:07 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:38 wins? Are we watching the same team? They must have found all of Knightros posts about us being overachievers.

That wasn't me! :lol:

I think this team can win 50.

Post #10 » by **eyriq** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:05 pm

Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Post #11 » by **eyriq** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:40 pm

I'm expecting Nuggets and Suns to be 1 & 2, in some order. I think the Pelicans are going to be really good and in the mix for a top four seed. Mavs and Wolves will be good as well.

So given I think the Nuggets and Suns are the class of the West, the Thunder have to underperform.

pepe1991 · Post #12 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:49 pm

eyriq wrote:I'm expecting Nuggets and Suns to be 1 & 2, in some order. I think the Pelicans are going to be really good and in the mix for a top four seed. Mavs and Wolves will be good as well.

So given I think the Nuggets and Suns are the class of the West, the Thunder have to underperform.

What makes you think OKC will be worst than last year?
I'll ignore that "hot take" and pretend i never seen it.

In spoiler you will see how they played against teams you picked ahead of them.

Spoiler:

Post #13 » by **Knightro** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:50 pm

eyriq wrote:Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Oh man. 0% chance of that.

OKC won 57 last year and added two super high end role players in Caruso and Hartenstein while losing no one of consequence.

Unless they are just decimated by lengthy injuries, they feel like a near lock to win 58+ games.

The Magic won't sniff that this year unless Paolo's secretly about to launch a "oh by the way I'm a top 12 NBA player now" kind of season.

JoshuaPotter · Post #14 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:16 pm

Knightro wrote:
eyriq wrote:Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Oh man. 0% chance of that.

OKC won 57 last year and added two super high end role players in Caruso and Hartenstein while losing no one of consequence.

Unless they are just decimated by lengthy injuries, they feel like a near lock to win 58+ games.

The Magic won't sniff that this year unless Paolo's secretly about to launch a "oh by the way I'm a top 12 NBA player now" kind of season.

Man what an overachieving thing to say... :lol:

Surprised you didn't say something to the effect of Black turning into diet Shia.

JoshuaPotter · Post #15 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:17 pm

eyriq wrote:Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Waiter....ill have what he is having.

thelead · Post #16 » by **thelead** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:23 pm

Embiid and PG13 are out to start the season.

Post #17 » by **eyriq** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:39 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
Surprised you didn't say something to the effect of Black turning into diet Shia.

One season too early!

JoshuaPotter · Post #18 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:47 pm

eyriq wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Surprised you didn't say something to the effect of Black turning into diet Shia.

One season too early!

Sorry my forecast model is turned to the generational forecast mode. Not realist nihilist.

VFX · Post #19 » by **VFX** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:45 pm

eyriq wrote:Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Scorching hot depths of hell take there friend.

Magic will be nowhere near as healthy this season as they were last guaranteed.

That, and I think the East got significantly better while the West got worse.

OKC also still has an MVP candidate and better roster this season than last.

JoshuaPotter · Post #20 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:59 pm

VFX wrote:
eyriq wrote:Hot take: Magic finishes with a better record than the Thunder

Scorching hot depths of hell take there friend.

Magic will be nowhere near as healthy this season as they were last guaranteed.

That, and I think the East got significantly better while the West got worse.

OKC also still has an MVP candidate and better roster this season than last.

One would think, minus obviously Isaac, we got rid of Fultz. Are you predicting Suggs goes back to being injury prone? WCJ is injured more or less?