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Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:14 am
by Bensational
2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 13
Paolo Banchero - 6
Anthony Black - 5
Jalen Suggs - 4
Goga Bitadze - 3
Moritz Wagner - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Vests
Franz Wagner - 4 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at MIA, v. IND)
Cummerbunds
Jalen Suggs - 2 (v. IND, v. CHA)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Moritz Wagner - 1 (v. BKN)
Anthony Black - 1 (v. NOP)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. WAS)
Mittens
Anthony Black - 3 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS)
Franz Wagner - 1 (at MIA)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. NOP)
Moritz Wagner - 1 (v. CHA)
2023-2024 Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 84
Franz Wagner - 62
Jalen Suggs - 45
Cole Anthony - 20
Jonathan Isaac - 19
Moritz Wagner - 16
Wendell Carter - 12
Goga Bitadze - 8
Anthony Black - 6
Joe Ingles - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Caleb Houstan - 2
Markelle Fultz - 2
Chuma Okeke - 1
2023-2024 Vests
Paolo Banchero - 19 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, at DEN, v. ATL, v. MIA, at SAS, v. NYK, v. UTA, v. DET, v. BKN, v. TOR, v. NOP, at NOP, v. MIL)
Franz Wagner - 9 (v. DEN, v. WAS, at WAS, v. NYK, at DET, v. SAS, v. CHI, v. BKN, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 7 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE, at DET, at TOR, v. CHA, v. CHI)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. HOU, v. CHA, at NYK, at CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (at CHI, v. PHX, at MIN)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (at POR, v. BOS, at CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (v. MEM, v. POR)
2023-2024 Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 15 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, v. MIA, at SAS, at MIN, v. NYK, at TOR, v. TOR, at NOP, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 11 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS, at NYK, at DET, v. SAS, at DET, at WAS, v. MEM, v. CHI)
Jalen Suggs - 8 (v. MIL, v. WAS, v. NYK, at DEN, at UTA, v. BKN, v. NOP, v. POR)
Anthony Black - 3 (v. LAL, at WAS, at CHA)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHI)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. PHX, v. BKN)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CLE, v. CHA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. ATL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 1 (v. DET)
2023-2024 Mittens
Jalen Suggs - 8 (at POR, v. WAS, v. ATL, at DET, v. SAS, at WAS, v. TOR, v. MEM)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (at CHI, at SAS, v. NYK, v. BKN, at TOR, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 5 (v. CHA, at WAS, v. PHX, at CHA, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 5 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS, v. NOP, v. POR)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET, v. NYK)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. TOR, v. WAS, at DEN, v. CHI)
Wendell Carter Jr - 4 (at UTH, v. MIA, at MIN, v. BKN)
Joe Ingles - 3 (v. DEN, v. CLE, at CLE)
Mortiz Wagner - 3 (at DET, v. UTA, at NOP)
Gary Harris - 2 (at CHI, at IND)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. DET, v. CHI)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (at NYK)
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:19 am
by SOUL
Might sound crazy cause Franz kept us afloat in the 1st but think he hurt us in the 2nd a bit on offense..
Just because of where it happened in the game:
Isaac
AB
Goga
but again, shout out to everyone tonight. Suggs, Franz, KCP, Jett, etc.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:19 am
by MasterGMer
Franz
AB
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:23 am
by eyriq
Vest: Franz
Cummerbund: Goga
Mittens: AB
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:27 am
by DiplomaticMagic
One of Goga, Isaac, AB and Franz isnt getting any clothes? Seems like an offense.
1. Goga
2. Franz
3. AB
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:28 am
by Bensational
For me this is AB easily. He had a hand in everything on both sides of the court as the team held Indiana scoreless and Orlando took the lead in the first few minutes of the 4th. Rebound, Block, Dunk, Steal, Assist, Free Throws all contributing to taking a 5pt lead. That’s a big effort for the kid, well above his expectations IMO.
C - Franz - lead scorer, continued MVP-standard performance.
M- Isaac - Ice cold defensively.
Honorable mention - Georgia Beast. Just not enough points to go around.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:58 am
by RichCollab
Franz
JI
Black
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:04 am
by Knightro
A lot of podium worthy players tonight.
Thought it was KCP's best game of the season. Thought it was Isaac's best game of the season. Thought Black was great. Thought Goga was great.
Franz had the biggest line, but was actually pretty poor in the 2nd half (4-15 FG, -5). Suggs was great defensively, but just had an absolutely terrible offensive performance.
I'll go...
Vest - Isaac
Cummerbund - Goga
Mittens - Black
Lollypop to Franz and KCP.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:08 am
by thelead
JI
AB
Franz
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:41 am
by drsd
I am not sure if this is a trolling vote. F-Wagner is the auto-vest choice here. Scoring 29 points in the NBA is hard. Points scored in any of the 4 quarters have the same impact on winning. Yes Mathurin scored, but he was not efficient in that.
And if "impact" is why there are Isaac and Black votes, then one could argue for Caldwell-Pope as he led the team in plus/minus. And, he is my cummerbund choice. a p.s. Suggs/Caldwell-Pope defensive domination over Halliburton and Sheppard.
Bitadze's double-double for the mittens. It was a double-dozen
Lollipops for Caldwell-Pope, Isaac, M-Wagner, Black and Howard. All of them gave positive performances and if any of the pop-players played less-well, the Magic lose.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:34 am
by jezzerinho
Franz
Goga
Isaac
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:58 am
by Ducklett
I voted for AB because if you go watch the game recap on NBA.com dude was glazing (are we allowed to say that) AB's performance in the 4th quarter like he was some kind of golden god.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:52 am
by Medford
Franz
JI
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:23 pm
by basketballRob
I went with AB because he was the difference in the 4th quarter. He had all 6 of his points, a block, a couple of steals, and a few assists. We started the 4th down 4 and went on a 13-0 run, and it was AB in almost every play on both ends.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:28 pm
by richi_v25
V- Franz - Team lead scorer, we needed his offense
C- Blank - Really took over on both sides in the 4th
M - JI - Dared and scared anyone in the paint
Lollipops - Goga - the Georgia beast was almost let free
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:15 pm
by magik9113
Franz
Goga
JI
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:36 pm
by eyriq
Franz is consistently delivering first-option/all-star production. Suggs hasn't scaled and a third option hasn't stepped up. Big props to Franz, it's very impressive what he's doing this home stand.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:42 pm
by drsd
It looks like F-Wagner will win this vote but without a plurality. That is quite odd for me.
a) 29 points is usually an auto-vest.
b) he made 8 of the Magic's 13 FTMs.
c) He had a assist/TO line of 6! on zero PFs.
23-6-3 is vest worthy for me all days and every day.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:03 pm
by Knightro
drsd wrote:It looks like F-Wagner will win this vote but without a plurality. That is quite odd for me.
a) 29 points is usually an auto-vest.
b) he made 8 of the Magic's 13 FTMs.
c) He had a assist/TO line of 6! on zero PFs.
23-6-3 is vest worthy for me all days and every day.
I think for some people, they like to put more weight on
when the Magic took control of a game during a victory.
Franz was great in the 1st half, but the Magic were still trailing at halftime.
He was decidedly not very good in the 2nd half, but that's when the Magic took control of the game. So the perception is that other players had a bigger impact on leading the team to the victory.
But it's all up to everyone's own personal interpretation.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #7: Magic 94 - Pacers 90
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:22 pm
by JBSouthpaw
Franz was drawing double teams late, very important. But I love these, were there is no clear winner, it takes a TEAM.