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Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99

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Sweater Vest No. 9

Poll ended at Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:37 am

Franz Wagner: 32 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, 12-24 FG, 4-8 3PT, 4-5 FT, +12 in 39 minutes
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70%
Anthony Black: 20 PTS, 4 REB, 9 AST, 3 STL, 5-10 FG, 3-5 3PT, 7-8 FT, +13 in 33 minutes
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30%
Goga Bitadze: 17 PTS, 10 REB, 1 AST, 2 BLK, 7-8 FG, 3-4 FT, +9 in 31 minutes
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Total votes: 37

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Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#1 » by Knightro » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:37 am



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2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 19
Paolo Banchero - 6
Anthony Black - 6
Jalen Suggs - 4
Moritz Wagner - 4
Jonathan Isaac - 4
Goga Bitadze - 3
Gary Harris - 2

Vests
Franz Wagner - 6 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at MIA, v. IND)

Cummerbunds
Jalen Suggs - 2 (v. IND, v. CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. IND, v. PHL)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Moritz Wagner - 1 (v. BKN)
Anthony Black - 1 (v. NOP)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. WAS)

Mittens
Anthony Black - 4 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. CHA, v. PHL)
Franz Wagner - 1 (at MIA)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. NOP)



2023-2024 Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 84
Franz Wagner - 62
Jalen Suggs - 45
Cole Anthony - 20
Jonathan Isaac - 19
Moritz Wagner - 16
Wendell Carter - 12
Goga Bitadze - 8
Anthony Black - 6
Joe Ingles - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Caleb Houstan - 2
Markelle Fultz - 2
Chuma Okeke - 1

2023-2024 Vests
Paolo Banchero - 19 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, at DEN, v. ATL, v. MIA, at SAS, v. NYK, v. UTA, v. DET, v. BKN, v. TOR, v. NOP, at NOP, v. MIL)
Franz Wagner - 9 (v. DEN, v. WAS, at WAS, v. NYK, at DET, v. SAS, v. CHI, v. BKN, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 7 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE, at DET, at TOR, v. CHA, v. CHI)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. HOU, v. CHA, at NYK, at CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (at CHI, v. PHX, at MIN)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (at POR, v. BOS, at CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (v. MEM, v. POR)

2023-2024 Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 15 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, v. MIA, at SAS, at MIN, v. NYK, at TOR, v. TOR, at NOP, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 11 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS, at NYK, at DET, v. SAS, at DET, at WAS, v. MEM, v. CHI)
Jalen Suggs - 8 (v. MIL, v. WAS, v. NYK, at DEN, at UTA, v. BKN, v. NOP, v. POR)
Anthony Black - 3 (v. LAL, at WAS, at CHA)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHI)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. PHX, v. BKN)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CLE, v. CHA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. ATL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 1 (v. DET)

2023-2024 Mittens
Jalen Suggs - 8 (at POR, v. WAS, v. ATL, at DET, v. SAS, at WAS, v. TOR, v. MEM)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (at CHI, at SAS, v. NYK, v. BKN, at TOR, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 5 (v. CHA, at WAS, v. PHX, at CHA, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 5 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS, v. NOP, v. POR)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET, v. NYK)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. TOR, v. WAS, at DEN, v. CHI)
Wendell Carter Jr - 4 (at UTH, v. MIA, at MIN, v. BKN)
Joe Ingles - 3 (v. DEN, v. CLE, at CLE)
Mortiz Wagner - 3 (at DET, v. UTA, at NOP)
Gary Harris - 2 (at CHI, at IND)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. DET, v. CHI)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (at NYK)
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#2 » by Knightro » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:38 am

Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Black
Mittens - Bitadze

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#3 » by MasterGMer » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:39 am

AB
Franz
Goga

Gotta love some AB! Hope the dude keeps growing. We need him down the stretch
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#4 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:41 am

Really tough I think. Franz played the bigger role offensively but I think AB excelled in his limited offensive role and was stellar defensively so I'm giving him the knod.

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#5 » by Audi » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:49 am

As much as I want to give it to AB, Franz was dominant and key to fending off PHX’s last run.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#6 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:50 am

Franz gotta be Eastern conference player of the week or something this is wild consistency
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#7 » by SOUL » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:52 am

Franz
AB
Goga
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#8 » by RichCollab » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:54 am

Franz
AB
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#9 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:03 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Franz gotta be Eastern conference player of the week or something this is wild consistency



He was named player of the week yesterday.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#10 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:04 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Franz gotta be Eastern conference player of the week or something this is wild consistency



He was named player of the week yesterday.


Perfect!
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#11 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:07 am

I don't know how anyone can advocate for WCJ over Goga. Goga just obviously clears.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#12 » by OrlandoDream » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:29 am

Franz Wagner has been playing fantastic and like an sure all star. Him hitting those 3s is huuuge. It just opens the floor so much more for the entire team. Also, the added muscle is another big reason Franz has taken next step. He is finishing in the paint and taking contact in ways he could not 2-3 years ago.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#13 » by Bensational » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:28 am

AB
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Franz
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#14 » by Message Boar » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:31 am

Gotta be Franz still. Shoutout to AB, though. Really strong all-around game from him.

Also a tip of the cap to the guys that held Booker in check (Suggs/KCP/AB mostly)
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#15 » by GelbeWand09 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:42 am

OrlandoDream wrote:Franz Wagner has been playing fantastic and like an sure all star. Him hitting those 3s is huuuge. It just opens the floor so much more for the entire team. Also, the added muscle is another big reason Franz has taken next step. He is finishing in the paint and taking contact in ways he could not 2-3 years ago.


He was top 5-10 the last 2 years already in finishing drives in the NBA. He is a elite finisher but yea the added strength helps him even more.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#16 » by jezzerinho » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:55 am

Who you vote for kind of depends on what you think the vest is for. Most of the time I go for who I think was the best player on the day.

Franz is still a better player than AB by a good distance and showed against the Sun's every bit of his skillset.

But if you're looking at the vest for a performance where a player showed a whole new level and maybe opened the door to a new era for his team, you have to give it to Black. There was some Wow in there, moments i even wondered if the Magic might have a PG in its roster.....

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#17 » by drsd » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:09 am

SOUL wrote:Franz
AB
Goga


The correct answer!

This game had a load of lollipops: Caldwell-Pope, Suggs, Isaac, and M-Wagner.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#18 » by zaymon » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:52 am

Vest - Franz
Cummerbund - Black
Mittens - Bitadze
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#19 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:35 pm

I voted Franz for the vest but in reality you could cut my vote in half for Black / Franz. But because I absolutely have too...

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I really dislike the idea of career highs from Black not being vest worthy. The reality is, I think this will eventually become his norm. Next time he does it, I don't think we ignore it. Even if Franz goes off for 60 points.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #9: Magic 109 - Suns 99 

Post#20 » by yoyojw17 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:31 pm

TDS needs some love too! Shot 1-5.... But you can see his confidence shifting and he is being more intentional on the court! 6 assists.... I'll take that with his solid and growing defense.

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