Jalen Suggs. New Elephant in a room.

pepe1991 · Post #1 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:43 am

he sucks

HighPack · Post #2 » by **HighPack** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:10 pm

Last 3 games 5/26 3pt

tiderulz · Post #3 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:36 pm

we knew he wasnt a #1 or #2 option. So with Paolo out and him shouldering more of an offensive initiator role, his game was going to suffer some. He doesnt suck, still gives great defense. We all knew he shouldnt be a PG but a defensive SG. the fault is in the front office

edit: read this before game thread, so things make more sense

Post #4 » by **Knightro** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:49 pm

I am not too concerned. When Paolo comes back he’ll naturally be shuffled back into a role offensively that he’s better suited for.

Like TDS, the jumper looks too pure to just keep missing.

Black and Blue · Post #5 » by **Black and Blue** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:11 pm

The identity of this team is defense and passing, and he certainly is the centerpiece of the former. He is extremely hit and miss when thrust into a primary scorer role which isn’t surprising as he expels most of his energy on the other end of the floor. It’s like a worker being told to take the day and the night shift because his other coworker is sick…not going to be the best work.

If the Magic can develop another scoring threat to help Franz while Paolo is out, it’ll allow Suggs to take smarter shots and stop forcing. Real opportunity for the rest of this young team to step up.

basketballRob · Post #6 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:19 pm

He'll probably end up shooting 36% plus again from 3 while being 1st team all-defense by the end of the season.

It seems like I remember Pepe saying the same thing early last season while Suggs 3-pt average was low and me predicting the same thing from Suggs.

Suggs 39-42 from the FT line for 93% tells me that his shot has improved. He's just a streaky player.

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RookieStar · Post #7 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:21 pm

Yes... yes... it is.

Post #8 » by **eyriq** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:23 pm

Not worried. He's focused his training on being the best defender in the world, a catch-and-shoot threat, and a 3rd option on offense and he's developing well on all three fronts.

He's an all-around contributor on offense, able to get a bucket or assist a bucket at lower usage.

My only concern is that he can't consistently carry a 3rd option offensive workload.

pepe1991 · Post #9 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:27 pm

This thread isn't what some of you think it is. Read game thread :lol:

basketballRob · Post #10 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:30 pm

It's amazing that we've played well with KCP, Suggs, Harris, and AB all shooting poorly. They have been amazing defensively. It makes me think that this team has a way higher peak that we haven't reached yet.

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Post #11 » by **eyriq** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:35 pm

pepe1991 wrote:This thread isn't what some of you think it is. Read game thread

I appreciate the hustle

Magicman125 · Post #12 » by **Magicman125** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:02 pm

The dawg in the room is also an elephant. Not concerned, just a cold spell for him re: shooting.

drsd · Post #13 » by **drsd** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:08 pm

pepe1991 wrote:he sucks

He does have a career high in DRtg. So that's something. Is that worth five-year, $150.5 ? Umm: no.

Orlando has a tall Alex Caruso on its books moving forward. Over-paid, but not "he sucks".

My fear is that Suggs style of play is certain of "career-ending injury". I hope I am wrong, but how can his play style be sustained for another 5 1/2 years?????

Suggs clearly has wrist problems now (both wrists). That worries me! The kid is only 23.

Catledge · Post #14 » by **Catledge** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:24 pm

pepe1991 wrote:This thread isn't what some of you think it is. Read game thread

For the karmic ninja move to work, you have to let people believe that it's real.

The-Stallion70 · Post #15 » by **The-Stallion70** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:59 pm

He is playing like **** but he's a favorite so ppl breaking out the excuses

Post #16 » by **eyriq** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:He is playing like **** but he's a favorite so ppl breaking out the excuses

Edit: sorry, that was rude of me. Suggs development invites criticism, which is fine.

Post #17 » by **SOUL** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:00 pm

pepe taking one for the team with the anti-jinx, love to see it

Skybox · Post #18 » by **Skybox** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:39 pm

this is why we have 100 threads and, like 3 legit topics :lol:

I do understand this one is tactical...hope it works

msmoore66 · Post #19 » by **msmoore66** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:56 pm

By elephant, we meant the one with the massive trunk right?

Vampirate · Post #20 » by **Vampirate** » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:58 pm

Raptors fan here.

I am in the belief Suggs has the 2nd highest ceiling of your team.

What's stopping him on offense is that his best role is that of a 2 way elite slasher (Wade, who himself wasn't a good three point shooter).

He's ping ponging from either being a star or role player on offense.

54% of his shots are threes and basically assisted while 46% of his 2s are basically him ISOing and he's good at it.

It's going to require a change in shot diet, but I believe the guy could get to the rack anytime he wants and eat at the FT line.