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Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:39 am
by Knightro
2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 31
Anthony Black - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Paolo Banchero - 6
Jalen Suggs - 6
Jonathan Isaac - 6
Goga Bitadze - 4
Gary Harris - 2
Cole Anthony - 2
Vests
Franz Wagner - 10 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at MIA, v. IND)
Cummerbunds
Jalen Suggs - 3 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. IND, v. PHL)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. NOP, at PHX)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. WAS)
Cole Anthony - 1 (at CHA)
Mittens
Anthony Black - 4 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (v. NOP, at PHX)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. DET, at CHA)
Franz Wagner - 1 (at MIA)
2023-2024 Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 84
Franz Wagner - 62
Jalen Suggs - 45
Cole Anthony - 20
Jonathan Isaac - 19
Moritz Wagner - 16
Wendell Carter - 12
Goga Bitadze - 8
Anthony Black - 6
Joe Ingles - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Caleb Houstan - 2
Markelle Fultz - 2
Chuma Okeke - 1
2023-2024 Vests
Paolo Banchero - 19 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, at DEN, v. ATL, v. MIA, at SAS, v. NYK, v. UTA, v. DET, v. BKN, v. TOR, v. NOP, at NOP, v. MIL)
Franz Wagner - 9 (v. DEN, v. WAS, at WAS, v. NYK, at DET, v. SAS, v. CHI, v. BKN, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 7 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE, at DET, at TOR, v. CHA, v. CHI)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. HOU, v. CHA, at NYK, at CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (at CHI, v. PHX, at MIN)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (at POR, v. BOS, at CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (v. MEM, v. POR)
2023-2024 Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 15 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, v. MIA, at SAS, at MIN, v. NYK, at TOR, v. TOR, at NOP, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 11 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS, at NYK, at DET, v. SAS, at DET, at WAS, v. MEM, v. CHI)
Jalen Suggs - 8 (v. MIL, v. WAS, v. NYK, at DEN, at UTA, v. BKN, v. NOP, v. POR)
Anthony Black - 3 (v. LAL, at WAS, at CHA)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHI)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. PHX, v. BKN)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CLE, v. CHA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. ATL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 1 (v. DET)
2023-2024 Mittens
Jalen Suggs - 8 (at POR, v. WAS, v. ATL, at DET, v. SAS, at WAS, v. TOR, v. MEM)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (at CHI, at SAS, v. NYK, v. BKN, at TOR, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 5 (v. CHA, at WAS, v. PHX, at CHA, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 5 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS, v. NOP, v. POR)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET, v. NYK)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. TOR, v. WAS, at DEN, v. CHI)
Wendell Carter Jr - 4 (at UTH, v. MIA, at MIN, v. BKN)
Joe Ingles - 3 (v. DEN, v. CLE, at CLE)
Mortiz Wagner - 3 (at DET, v. UTA, at NOP)
Gary Harris - 2 (at CHI, at IND)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. DET, v. CHI)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (at NYK)
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:40 am
by Knightro
Vest - Suggs for the career high
Cummerbund - KCP for the season high
Mittens - Goga for the double double and defense
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:50 am
by SOUL
Suggs
KCP
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:53 am
by RichCollab
Suggs
KCP
Franz
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:38 am
by eyriq
Knightro wrote:Vest - Suggs for the career high
Cummerbund - KCP for the season high
Mittens - Goga for the double double and defense
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:08 am
by Bensational
Suggs
KCP
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:49 am
by BadMofoPimp
Suggs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lavine
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:36 am
by DiplomaticMagic
Suggs
KCP
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:39 am
by drsd
vest - Suggs
cummberund - Caldwell-Pope
mittens - F-Wagner
lollipops to Bitadze (who looks like he will win the mittens race), M-Wagner for a good box-score, and Issac for a strong plus/minus.
Gotta love Howard's Duhon-like 0-fer-everything all-arounder. Minus-8 in 4 minutes played. Nice!
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:44 am
by jezzerinho
KCP
Suggs
Goga
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:07 am
by drsd
jezzerinho wrote:KCP
Suggs
Goga
If I was gonna vote on
how happy I am with a given game, this would 100% be my 1-2-3 list!
If Caldwell-Pope plays like this most nights, when Suggs is also in form, the Magic can win this year's title. I mean that.
Reflecting on your list
1) Here's hoping this one game of confidence spurs Caldwell-Pope to consistency!
2) For Suggs to come back from injury and put up this kind of gem; wow.
3) Keeping Bitadze in the starting lineup, he proved he is a modern-day NBA center. What a great double-double.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:21 am
by jezzerinho
drsd wrote:jezzerinho wrote:KCP
Suggs
Goga
If I was gonna vote on
how happy I am with a given game, this would 100% be my 1-2-3 list!
If Caldwell-Pope plays like this most nights, when Suggs is also in form, the Magic can win this year's title. I mean that.
Reflecting on your list
1) Here's hoping this one game of confidence spurs Caldwell-Pope to consistency!
2) For Suggs to come back from injury and put up this kind of gem; wow.
3) Keeping Bitadze in the starting lineup, he proved he is a modern-day NBA center. What a great double-double.
I always give the grades that way. The vest is for best player in the game and where there's a tie in my mind I err towards the most talented player in general.
I thought KCP was the best player on the night, the one that most contributed to the win. But it was close between all 3.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:57 am
by Message Boar
Damn, between KCP, Suggs, Franz and Goga, someone has to be left out of the prizes completely. Feelsbadman.
I'll give this one some more thought.
edit: all right, I'm just going with my gut
V: KCP
C: Suggs
M: Franz
look, I get that Jalen had his career high, but just watching the game, I value players that build the lead more than players that sustain the lead, and I felt like KCP's 3's hurt the bulls more. Additionally, just based on eye test I thought KCP was more impactful and better than Suggs on defense in that one, with big steals and deflections. It felt like Suggs was kinda hobbled at one point and wasn't fully moving on D to the best of his capabilities.
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:52 pm
by eyriq
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:59 pm
by drsd
eyriq wrote:?t=Yp0dMuzrCRdZPs4U6b9mqg&s=19
So, Anthony was Orlando's worst defender. Shocker!
In all seriousness, this graphic super-defnds those ranking Bitadze over F-Wagner for the mittens. By whatever maths this is, Botadze had the same OFFENSIVE outcome to the Magic. That is weet!
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:56 pm
by Knightro
Vest No. 13 Results
Vest - Jalen Suggs
Cummerbund - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Mittens - Goga Bitadze
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:58 pm
by Knightro
2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 31
Jalen Suggs - 9
Anthony Black - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Paolo Banchero - 6
Jonathan Isaac - 6
Goga Bitadze - 5
Gary Harris - 2
Cole Anthony - 2
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2
Vests
Franz Wagner - 10 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at MIA, v. IND)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. CHI)
Cummerbunds
Jalen Suggs - 3 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. IND, v. PHL)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. NOP, at PHX)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. WAS)
Cole Anthony - 1 (at CHA)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 1 (v. CHI)
Mittens
Anthony Black - 4 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Goga Bitadze - 3 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. CHI)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. DET, at CHA)
Franz Wagner - 1 (at MIA)
Re: Sweater Vest Thread #13: Magic 133 - Bulls 119
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:59 pm
by Knightro
Just the second game this season Franz missed the podium.
The other was the Paolo 50 point game where Franz barely played because he was sick.