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OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:12 am
by MasterGMer
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Also according to Orlando Business Journal, downtown Orlando is seeing some huge changes in the next 3 or 4 years.

West Court, which is formally known as the Orlando Magic Entertainment district, is formally going construction early 2025. Downtown Orlando will see expansions of roads and parks plus dining and offices. That is the plan.

As everyone knows, the biggest issue for City of Orlando is public transportation. I wish we get more Lymmo transit and Lynx busses.

Sunshine Corridor, which includes Brightline and Sun Rail station in Disney plus Orlando International Airport, is an idea that has been floated around. But it is going to cost at least 3 billion dollars. I have zero clue how city of Orlando is going to get that money. Federal Grant? I just do not know.

Also I have this wild idea to fix I4 traffic which is to do a bright line extension from Tampa to Orlando. The earliest date it could be done is all the way to 2029. It has been floated before

I love my Magic, man. I live in Central Florida myself. But I just want City of Orlando and downtown to be more convenient for games and visits. That is why I created this thread. I just wanna get some of yall ideas and "Inside Information". lol. :lol:

Have a Happy New Year, Magic fans. Paolo is coming back at least! Go Magic!

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:28 am
by basketballRob
I've never rode the Sunrail, but one of the stops is the downtown Lynx station that is walking distance to the arena. I may try it the next time I go. I live in Lake Mary, where they have a station.

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Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:10 am
by MasterGMer
This is from Orlando Business Journal

"FDOT has been a key figure in the push for the Sunshine Corridor and is helping lead efforts to advance the the next stage of planning. The goal is to start the project development and environment (PD&E) next year, and that will help refine price estimates and more for the expanded rail corridor"

"Things are going to start to become more specific. Those estimate are pie in the sky now, but if we move forward into PD&E study, we will put this project on track to ultimately build it and make it a reality"

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:45 am
by Blue_and_Whte
I live in Tennessee now but every time I drive through Orlando is seems more stuff has been developed and traffic is worse…That could also be because I’m used to the mild TN traffic.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:52 am
by richi_v25
Blue_and_Whte wrote:I live in Tennessee now but every time I drive through Orlando is seems more stuff has been developed and traffic is worse…That could also be because I’m used to the mild TN traffic.


No Orlando sucks now they have way too many ppl, and they should have been trying to expand the roads 20 years ago now it's too late. I had to move away I can't stand that it takes me twice as long to get to Orlando as it did 15 years ago.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:56 pm
by AdamTheGreek
Every Brightline and SunRail crash is to be blamed on the vehicle(s) involved, never the train.

The entertainment complex project is I believe still going through the bidding process. Once we know th company/entity who will run the project, we can finally break ground.
I’m 99% certain the ‘Westcourt’ name will be changed, no one likes it.

Rick Scott **** this state a long time ago by denying federal funds that would’ve built high speed rail between Orlando and Tampa.
It’s all coming down to Disney now. If Disney gives the OK for the SunRail expansion from MCO to downtown to Disney then we will also see an Orlando-Tampa line happen. Hopefully we hear the good news in 2025.
Disney used to be against anything that allowed its visitors to venture outside Disney property. But the benefits of being able to connect to the airport faster and easing traffic frustrations of their visitors should finally win out.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:17 pm
by BadMofoPimp
Ever since they opened that express toll lane, I don't have many issues with traffic.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:59 pm
by Optimus_Steel
AdamTheGreek wrote:Every Brightline and SunRail crash is to be blamed on the vehicle(s) involved, never the train.

The entertainment complex project is I believe still going through the bidding process. Once we know th company/entity who will run the project, we can finally break ground.
I’m 99% certain the ‘Westcourt’ name will be changed, no one likes it.

Rick Scott **** this state a long time ago by denying federal funds that would’ve built high speed rail between Orlando and Tampa.
It’s all coming down to Disney now. If Disney gives the OK for the SunRail expansion from MCO to downtown to Disney then we will also see an Orlando-Tampa line happen. Hopefully we hear the good news in 2025.
Disney used to be against anything that allowed its visitors to venture outside Disney property. But the benefits of being able to connect to the airport faster and easing traffic frustrations of their visitors should finally win out.




I heard Scott is invested in Brightline, shocker…..

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:19 pm
by magickingdom
I believe the Sunrail runs late the nights the Magic play home games. So you can ride it there and still be able to ride it home.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:22 pm
by tooler
I was going to ask, how is the walk from the arena to the Grand Bohemian? Is it still decent? I plan to bring my family to a game soon and we usually stay there.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:43 pm
by basketballRob
Optimus_Steel wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Every Brightline and SunRail crash is to be blamed on the vehicle(s) involved, never the train.

The entertainment complex project is I believe still going through the bidding process. Once we know th company/entity who will run the project, we can finally break ground.
I’m 99% certain the ‘Westcourt’ name will be changed, no one likes it.

Rick Scott **** this state a long time ago by denying federal funds that would’ve built high speed rail between Orlando and Tampa.
It’s all coming down to Disney now. If Disney gives the OK for the SunRail expansion from MCO to downtown to Disney then we will also see an Orlando-Tampa line happen. Hopefully we hear the good news in 2025.
Disney used to be against anything that allowed its visitors to venture outside Disney property. But the benefits of being able to connect to the airport faster and easing traffic frustrations of their visitors should finally win out.




I heard Scott is invested in Brightline, shocker…..
Obama begged Scott to take funding for high-speed trains, and Scott turned it down.

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Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:46 pm
by Kent
tooler wrote:I was going to ask, how is the walk from the arena to the Grand Bohemian? Is it still decent? I plan to bring my family to a game soon and we usually stay there.


You shouldn't have any issues.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:49 pm
by basketballRob
Yeah, the Bohemian may be the closest hotel to the arena. Maybe a half mile.

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Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Wed Jan 1, 2025 6:58 pm
by Optimus_Steel
basketballRob wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Every Brightline and SunRail crash is to be blamed on the vehicle(s) involved, never the train.

The entertainment complex project is I believe still going through the bidding process. Once we know th company/entity who will run the project, we can finally break ground.
I’m 99% certain the ‘Westcourt’ name will be changed, no one likes it.

Rick Scott **** this state a long time ago by denying federal funds that would’ve built high speed rail between Orlando and Tampa.
It’s all coming down to Disney now. If Disney gives the OK for the SunRail expansion from MCO to downtown to Disney then we will also see an Orlando-Tampa line happen. Hopefully we hear the good news in 2025.
Disney used to be against anything that allowed its visitors to venture outside Disney property. But the benefits of being able to connect to the airport faster and easing traffic frustrations of their visitors should finally win out.




I heard Scott is invested in Brightline, shocker…..
Obama begged Scott to take funding for high-speed trains, and Scott turned it down.

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https://www.npr.org/2018/08/17/639520111/florida-gov-rick-scott-has-convoluted-ties-to-rail-company-whose-project-he-supp


“Seven years ago, Florida Gov. Rick Scott killed a federally funded project to build a high-speed train between Tampa and Orlando.

Scott now supports the idea of a similar train route — fueled by private investment instead. And the governor and his wife have invested millions of dollars with a company that stands to profit off such a project, as first reported by the Miami Herald.”

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Wed Jan 1, 2025 8:39 pm
by otownflava21
basketballRob wrote:Yeah, the Bohemian may be the closest hotel to the arena. Maybe a half mile.

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Wrong. The closest hotel is the new AC Hotel (Marriott). That’s in the new(ish) Truist Tower directly across the Arena. The hotel consists of the top 6 floors of the building, and sports the highest publicly accessible balcony/rooftop bar restaurant in Downtown Orlando, overlooking I4 and the Kia Center.

The bohemian is still nice but it’s more than twice the walk and getting outdated.

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:32 am
by MasterGMer
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/12/09/orlando-eyes-special-district-to-help-get-westcourt-development-started/

The first phase of the Westcourt development in downtown Orlando, Florida is expected to open in late 2026 or early 2027. The development includes a Live Nation concert venue, a Kimpton hotel, apartments, office space, stores, and restaurants

Construction on the venue is expected to begin in early 2025

Re: OT: Brightline crash recently, btw some update on Orlando traffic and downtown renovation?

Posted: Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:48 am
by basketballRob
otownflava21 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Yeah, the Bohemian may be the closest hotel to the arena. Maybe a half mile.

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Wrong. The closest hotel is the new AC Hotel (Marriott). That’s in the new(ish) Truist Tower directly across the Arena. The hotel consists of the top 6 floors of the building, and sports the highest publicly accessible balcony/rooftop bar restaurant in Downtown Orlando, overlooking I4 and the Kia Center.

The bohemian is still nice but it’s more than twice the walk and getting outdated.
Okay. I see the AC hotel is .2 miles and the Bohemian is .3 miles. Either one is walking distance. The Marriott Downtown is .5 miles.

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