Rebuilding the Coaching Staff, the fastest way to instant improvement.

[three3d]

Salary caps and aprons dictate a lot of what is able to be done to improve teams, but coaches and assistant coaches salaries have no impact on caps. Statistically we are one of the worst offenses in the NBA, you don’t even need to look at the stats just watching games you see it. Players standing around, the ball not moving, bad shot selection, poor clock management, turnovers, you name it and it’s happening.

Yes it falls on the players but the coaches are who’s responsible ultimately for what they are doing and allowing them to keep doing. People are rightfully mad watching this happen and it’s time to address and fix the cheap/inexperienced staff. No I’m not replacing Mosley, but here are a few names that should be added and why.

Terry Stotts Offense: This is the equivalent to having an Offensive Coordinator in the NFL. Stotts has a proven track record and reputation of Offensive Guru. Why would Stotts take this job? If Stotts wants to get back as a Head Coach improving the Magic’s offense would be the easiest job with the most upside. We’ve already have Paolo and Franz in place all they need is a new offense built around them. Two star players + the potential to possibly acquire Anfernee Simons reuniting Stotts with Simons who he coached in Portland should/could have anyone salivating at this project.


Gary Payton: That’s right “The Glove” he’s currently coaching at the College of Alameda in Oakland. No brainer as to why, Jalen Suggs and Anthony Black finally having a point guard to learn the in’s and out’s of the position and game from. Having the greatest defensive pg of the 90’s in the Jordan and Kobe area and a Hall Of Famer to teach your guys is invaluable. It benefits the entire team and is such a huge addition.


Darell Armstrong: I’ll call it the Luka angle. Either way Darell belongs in Orlando but you factor in his relationship with Luka and also Mosley if Luka decides ( slim odds ) LA isn’t for him his relationship is so good with Darell and Mosley you might have some power of persuasion to pull it off and get Luka.


The biggest edition besides player acquisitions will be to the coaching staff.

[Skybox]

this is nowhere near as simple as it sounds. NBA coaching staffs are truly ASSISTANTS to the HC. It's not like football, where you can bring in a bunch of specialized guys who won't step on each other's toes. I would be excited to hear of an offensive-minded veteran to advise Mose (kind of a similar arrangement as Van Gundy in LAC) but, generally speaking, a strong assistant added to a weak staff signals a possible coaching change or at least some likely turmoil. If Mose was 100% on board, or even asked for that kind of support - it'd be great...but that's a tough one. It's rare to have to add a strong assistant veteran (to address a weakness) that doesn't become awkward for a young (admittedly not fully developed) HC.

I'm surprised Mose didn't choose any former HC vet(s) for his own rookie staff. That would be a very different dynamic.

[JoshuaPotter]

I have been very vocal about Mose lack of offensive strategy and honestly thats a top down problem all the way to the employees on the court.

To say all we need to do is hire an offensive coordinator limits the scope of the fact of what I think they are trying to build a defensive powerhouse 1st and to heck and a handbasket with all other elements until they find the pieces they want or waiting to see how Paolo / Franz / Suggs mature.

[three3d]

this is nowhere near as simple as it sounds. NBA coaching staffs are truly ASSISTANTS to the HC. It's not like football, where you can bring in a bunch of specialized guys who won't step on each other's toes. I would be excited to hear of an offensive-minded veteran to advise Mose (kind of a similar arrangement as Van Gundy in LAC) but, generally speaking, a strong assistant added to a weak staff signals a possible coaching change or at least some likely turmoil. If Mose was 100% on board, or even asked for that kind of support - it'd be great...but that's a tough one. It's rare to have to add a strong assistant veteran (to address a weakness) that doesn't become awkward for a young (admittedly not fully developed) HC.

I'm surprised Mose didn't choose any former HC vet(s) for his own rookie staff. That would be a very different dynamic.

So to your point I agree with the notion bringing in so much experience and expertise in an assistant role could be or appear threatening. I see it as a learning opportunity for Mosley as much as the team. I think Moseley is pretty safe in his job relatively speaking. He has tons of respect all around the league and being a part of the USA developmental team. I’d imagine improving this teams offense would be a relatively easy job, heck we can’t get that much worse lol. We have most of the pieces in place. It just takes the vision.

And again the fact we are so bad means there is room for a MASSIVE improvement and that coach will more than likely get the credit and be a hot commodity for teams looking to make coaching changes. And also let’s not forget the shoe on the other foot, being Mosley is so respected what happens if he eventually gets tired of the FO and wants to change his scenery? Coaches are tradable after all.

[three3d]

I have been very vocal about Mose lack of offensive strategy and honestly thats a top down problem all the way to the employees on the court.

To say all we need to do is hire an offensive coordinator limits the scope of the fact of what I think they are trying to build a defensive powerhouse 1st and to heck and a handbasket with all other elements until they find the pieces they want or waiting to see how Paolo / Franz / Suggs mature.

When shots aren’t falling who’s getting in Paolo’s ear right now and telling him go get a layup, get yourself to the foul line, or hey stop complaining to the refs about calls? Players are going to play ball, the coaches need to be analyzing the game and helping players make the necessary adjustments.

[three3d]

I have been very vocal about Mose lack of offensive strategy and honestly thats a top down problem all the way to the employees on the court.

To say all we need to do is hire an offensive coordinator limits the scope of the fact of what I think they are trying to build a defensive powerhouse 1st and to heck and a handbasket with all other elements until they find the pieces they want or waiting to see how Paolo / Franz / Suggs mature.

And also to this, we are SOOOOO bad on offense little changes would make big differences. Speeding up the pace of the offense for one is going to help get more shots up naturally creating more offensive positions during the game. We can’t be a horrible three point shooting team and a slow pace team at the same time. You have to make up for that point differential by having more possessions.

[three3d]

Paolo is such a frustrating person on offense, he bails the defense out constantly by not taking advantage of his mismatch’s. He’s to big, to fast, needs to work on his strength some but still he can damn near be unstoppable if he wanted to be. A system built around he and Franz that promotes ball and player movement will take him to a whole new level.

[JoshuaPotter]

Maybe we need a coaching staff elephant in the room thread?

[three3d]

Maybe we need a coaching staff elephant in the room thread?

Lol perhaps, or coaching staff is like taking a Ferrari to a KIA dealership for maintenance

[Skybox]

this (OP) is just not going to happen...but an "outside advisor" to Mose seems a lot more palatable. A Special Consultant (again like Jeff Van Gundy is) - some unofficial, unthreatening, role almost like a Tutor or "Dad" for Mose to meet with and bounce things off. Not necessarily even on the bench. More like an off-day offensive think tank for Mose to help him develop more offensive instincts, test out schemes, brainstorm, etc...not a guy even directly interacting with (and confusing) players.

BTW, Mose is absolutely the one in Paolo's ear during a game ...and should be.

[three3d]

this (OP) is just not going to happen...but an "outside advisor" to Mose seems a lot more palatable. A Special Consultant (again like Jeff Van Gundy is) - some unofficial, unthreatening, role almost like a Tutor or "Dad" for Mose to meet with and bounce things off. Not necessarily even on the bench. More like an off-day offensive think tank for Mose to help him develop more offensive instincts, test out schemes, brainstorm, etc...not a guy even directly interacting with (and confusing) players.

BTW, Mose is absolutely the one in Paolo's ear during a game ...and should be.

Memphis brought over Tuomas Iisalo from the Euro League who’s somewhat revolutionized their offense and improved it. I don’t think that bothered their head coach too much. Sometimes those are the things you have to do if you want to win.

[Skybox]

this (OP) is just not going to happen...but an "outside advisor" to Mose seems a lot more palatable. A Special Consultant (again like Jeff Van Gundy is) - some unofficial, unthreatening, role almost like a Tutor or "Dad" for Mose to meet with and bounce things off. Not necessarily even on the bench. More like an off-day offensive think tank for Mose to help him develop more offensive instincts, test out schemes, brainstorm, etc...not a guy even directly interacting with (and confusing) players.

BTW, Mose is absolutely the one in Paolo's ear during a game ...and should be.

Memphis brought over Tuomas Iisalo from the Euro League who’s somewhat revolutionized their offense and improved it. I don’t think that bothered their head coach too much. Sometimes those are the things you have to do if you want to win.

I'm all for it if Mose is...honestly, a foreign guy is an appealing idea...less high-profile, high-ego than an older NBA coach who (potentially) looks down on or even intimidates Mose.

[three3d]

this (OP) is just not going to happen...but an "outside advisor" to Mose seems a lot more palatable. A Special Consultant (again like Jeff Van Gundy is) - some unofficial, unthreatening, role almost like a Tutor or "Dad" for Mose to meet with and bounce things off. Not necessarily even on the bench. More like an off-day offensive think tank for Mose to help him develop more offensive instincts, test out schemes, brainstorm, etc...not a guy even directly interacting with (and confusing) players.

BTW, Mose is absolutely the one in Paolo's ear during a game ...and should be.

Memphis brought over Tuomas Iisalo from the Euro League who’s somewhat revolutionized their offense and improved it. I don’t think that bothered their head coach too much. Sometimes those are the things you have to do if you want to win.

I'm all for it if Mose is...honestly, a foreign guy is an appealing idea...less high-profile, high-ego than an older NBA coach who (potentially) looks down on or even intimidates Mose.

Steve Kerr isn’t intimidated by having Stotts , is Kerr a great coach or did he just happen to have the greatest two shooters of all time along with a great roster? I think no matter what the answer is to Kerr it still says something about them bringing in Stotts to fix things.

[anothermagicfan]

Mose isn't the one missing open 3s all season.

Teams game plan against us is incredibly easy. Force us to make 3s. Pack the paint so Paolo and Franz don't dominate on drives and get to the line to bail out the offense.

Now we could have better player movement and ball movement. We saw that in the beginning of the season. We're too stagnant a lot of the time. We waste too much shot clock trying to figure out what we're doing because the defense saggs off shooters to clog up the lane. We simply need to shoot the 3 ball better and everything else will open back up.

I'd work on tweaking the roster before I'd make coaching changes.

[three3d]

Mose isn't the one missing open 3s all season.

Teams game plan against us is incredibly easy. Force us to make 3s. Pack the paint so Paolo and Franz don't dominate on drives and get to the line to bail out the offense.

Now we could have better player movement and ball movement. We saw that in the beginning of the season. We're too stagnant a lot of the time. We waste too much shot clock trying to figure out what we're doing because the defense saggs off shooters to clog up the lane. We simply need to shoot the 3 ball better and everything else will open back up.

I'd work on tweaking the roster before I'd make coaching changes.

I’m not down on Mosley, but there’s nothing to be said about the rest of the coaching staff that would be a positive. There’s nothing wrong with saying Mosley isn’t a great offensive X’s and O’s guy, his strengths are in other areas. Theresa a reason coaches have assistants and or specialist on their staff, that’s to take some load off their plate and make a complete unit to handle all phases of a basketball game. Yes the roster needs tweaking, but you should have a set system in place that you can tweak around. ISO basketball is a crap shoot at best, no rhyme or reason to what’s going on. It’s lazy basketball and well yes it can be part of the game at times. It should never be the main focus of your offense.

[Max Power]

I’d certainly agree that having an assistant with some real street cred on offense couldn’t hurt. I’m not familiar with anyone really other than the mentioned Stotts. I certainly don’t think the team should even remotely have Mose’s seat warm. He’s done a spectacular job despite the Magic’s offensive issues. Ultimately I still think some roster tweaks bringing in some real shooters and a competent playmaker point guard will help more than anything.

[three3d]

Agreed Mosley is one of the best young coaches and I have no doubt the team loves him and he genuinely cares about his guys beyond just basketball. You see the way other teams stars interact with Mosley and it shows he’s got something special in him.

It’s hard to believe NBA players can be this bad at shooting, and guys as talented as Paolo can have poor efficiency given his abilities. It’s a unique situation having two guys like Paolo and Franz, all world talent on the same roster. It requires understanding and offensive vision and master mind to fully build the system for them. We don’t have that assistant coach but finding him will help.

[toquito]

Our assistant coach Dale Osbourne worked under Terry Stotts for 9 years. Bret Brielmaier worked under Kenny Atkinson. We have assistant coaches with a lot of experience in the NBA. They just have struggled to make things work with a young roster that's been injured and can't hit open threes.

[three3d]

Our assistant coach Dale Osbourne worked under Terry Stotts for 9 years. Bret Brielmaier worked under Kenny Atkinson. We have assistant coaches with a lot of experience in the NBA. They just have struggled to make things work with a young roster that's been injured and can't hit open threes.

Playing on a South Alabama team led by Terry Catledge, who would go on to play eight NBA seasons, the 6-6 Osbourne became a defensive specialist.

"I wasn't good enough to score points, so to get minutes, I had to be able to guard people," he says. "I figured out a way to get on the floor. I ended up being a pretty good defender."

[Def Swami]

Our coaching isn't perfect, but it feels like a scapegoat. There's no movement because there's nowhere to move. There's no spacing. Good defenses double Paolo and pack the paint and dare Gary Harris, Jonathan Isaac, Wendell Carter, and Anthony Black to beat them. It becomes a math game that the Magic are set up to lose most nights unless their defense is top tier and Paolo and Franz are on. A coach isn't going to make us go from 25th in free throw percentage or dead last in 3 point shooting percentage to average. It's on players to be able to hit shots, and our guys simply do not hit shots.