Playoffs vs Lotto

[thelead]

What are you hoping for at this point? We're clearly headed toward the play-ins but that doesn't guarantee anything.

Me? I want the lotto. Why? Trade value of the pick AND, more importantly, to put pressure on the DeVos' to do something... like firing Weltman. Making the playoffs and getting crushed does nothing for me and may give ownership enough excuse to keep Weltman and the status quo.

So, what are you hoping for at this point with 12 games to go?

[otownflava21]

I’m going playoffs mainly because these guys need the experience. Even if we get whooped by Celts or Cavs, the young stars will learn from it. I think the failure of this season should spark necessary change this offseason at least in regards to personnel. If they can shuffle things around for next season we may find a new lineup for the most part. There are going to have to be changes for sure one way or another. If the Magic as an organization and as a roster stand pat, then I’ll be not only stunned, but pissed.

[Knightro]

What are you hoping for at this point? We're clearly headed toward the play-ins but that doesn't guarantee anything.

Me? I want the lotto. Why? Trade value of the pick AND, more importantly, to put pressure on the DeVos' to do something... like firing Weltman. Making the playoffs and getting crushed does nothing for me.

So, what are you hoping for at this point with 12 games to go?

Realistically... I think they're gonna close with a 7-5 record which will put them at 39-43.

If they win the play in, they're picking 15th.

At 39-43, if they were to lose in the play in, that put them at probably the 12th pick with like a 7% chance of moving up.

Part of me would rather see them get the experience, even if it ends up being a short series, of playing a really good Cavs or Celtics team in a hostile playoff environment than I would them getting a pick three picks higher.

[SHAQ32]

There's nothing to hope for. This season was a major failure, regardless of injuries. Isaac, Wendell, Black, KCP, Coach Mosley, the front office/ownership, all major failures.

[VFX]

Lotto and restructuring of the roster. Bare minimum.

Either use the picks in a trade to consolidate, or use our own pick if it ends up higher. Management has a ton of work to do and the higher valued asset starts those conversations.

Season is over due to injury timelines, poor roster construction, and hitting a ceiling.

Orlando isn’t going to learn anything substantial, more than they did last season, by making the playoffs having to play Cleveland or Boston.

Anyone being a non-homer knows this team is flawed more than just a handful of poorly timed injuries.

[Knightro]

The difference is so negligible - 12th pick v. 15th pick - that I’d rather them actually show some pride and beat somebody in the play in and then see if they can win a game or two against an elite team in the playoffs.

I don’t think the slightly better pick is going to be significantly more valuable in terms of who is available or as a trade asset.

And regardless of whether they end up in the playoffs or the lottery, I would hope they understand that wholesale changes are needed.

[thelead]

The difference is so negligible - 12th pick v. 15th pick - that I’d rather them actually show some pride and beat somebody in the play in and then see if they can win a game or two against an elite team in the playoffs.

I don’t think the slightly better pick is going to be significantly more valuable in terms of who is available or as a trade asset.

And regardless of whether they end up in the playoffs or the lottery, I would hope they understand that wholesale changes are needed.

This is where we differ. I have very little hope/faith in the DeVos'.

[Knightro]

The difference is so negligible - 12th pick v. 15th pick - that I’d rather them actually show some pride and beat somebody in the play in and then see if they can win a game or two against an elite team in the playoffs.

I don’t think the slightly better pick is going to be significantly more valuable in terms of who is available or as a trade asset.

And regardless of whether they end up in the playoffs or the lottery, I would hope they understand that wholesale changes are needed.

This is where we differ. I have very little hope/faith in the DeVos'.

I don’t either, but I don’t think that winning or losing the play in is going to impact that either way.

[Bensational]

Playoffs. I don’t want a bad couple of months to become a long term mindset for them. I want to see them get back that underdog fighting spirit.

You can find a gem later in the draft, but can only learn playoff ball playing playoff ball.

[KillMonger]

Offs, Paolo and Franz need more experience in games with high stakes

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[jezzerinho]

Wow.

There is only one answer here. Playoffs.

You get a ticket to the dance and you go for it. I mean, so of you are so conditioned to rinse and repeat failure that the game for you happens in the offseason.

Last i checked, the real NBA is played in the postseason and I for one want the team to be there and to put its best foot forward.

Lotto? Get outta here. Even if we get a high pick, Weltman will prob screw it up. Even if he drafts the best PG prospect going, that guy will be pure azz for at least 2 seasons. Almost never is a drafted guard able to be an NBA field general inside 3 years. So get used to more suckage if you like playing BB in the summer.

[Jiwol]

Offs, Paolo and Franz need more experience in games with high stakes

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Dude, Franz had literally lead the German national team to a World Championship...

[tiderulz]

honestly, lottery. If we make the playoffs, the front office will have some justification, saying we could have had higher slot if we didnt have injuries. But this is still a flawed, put together team.

[eyriq]

I think the lottery is more valuable if you haven't acquired your franchise player(s) and playoff reps are more valuable when you have. I believe we have two franchise players. They should be good enough to lead us to the playoffs.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

The players need the experience of the playoffs. We have too many lottery picks already and don’t care about its value when we don’t trade it unless it is a second round pick.

[Skybox]

Lottery...Ideally, come in to 9th seed, CRUSH MIA in a play-in game then lose a freakish game where someone unlikely on ATL or CHI goes off for 12 3pters (so you don't feel as bad about the fluke game). Maybe it's Coby White and we trade for him a month later. Taste some playoff/play-in glory but avoid the 2 week torture of a series massacre that is more mentally upsetting than heading into summer with some hope of growth. Pat Williams' ghost can't get us in the Top 5 to escape purgatory and get to heaven, but he moves the draft slot from #15 to 11, which is an immensely more valuable trade chip - even though very few, if any, of those players would mean much to our team.

[AdamTheGreek]

Playoffs. Our guys need as much experience as possible. I’d like to face Boston.
Season is a waste if we don’t get into a playoff series.

[tiderulz]

I think the lottery is more valuable if you haven't acquired your franchise player(s) and playoff reps are more valuable when you have. I believe we have two franchise players. They should be good enough to lead us to the playoffs.

Suggs likely not back. going into the playoffs with a short stack, would rather the highest draft pick possible to help the team next year. They wont learn anything losing 2 games in a playoff or getting blown out in a playoff series when they know they are short staffed.

[VFX]

No Moe and no Suggs means Orlando is worse off than last season in terms of gaining valuable insight.

And we absolutely don’t need the FO hanging their hat on “making the playoffs” to forgo making obvious decisions AGAIN. I’d rather the front office and management have warmer seats.

There is no tangible metric for playoff experience when you are getting swept. People say these things but it ultimately means nothing but empty platitudes.

There is absolutely something to be gained otherwise even if the chances aren’t high.

[magik9113]

throwing this out into the universe: We make the playoffs, Cole does one of those things he does where he turns into MJ for a few brief moments -- maybe even hits a game winner -- we obviously still lose the series, but he gains some serious trade value. We trade him and our picks for a real PG. life is good.