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Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:54 am
by Knightro

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2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 58
Paolo Banchero - 32
Anthony Black - 22
Cole Anthony - 17
Goga Bitadze - 16
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 13
Jonathan Isaac - 12
Jalen Suggs - 11
Tristan da Silva - 8
Wendell Carter Jr. - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Caleb Houstan - 4
Trevelin Queen - 4
Gary Harris - 2
Cory Joseph - 2

Vests
Franz Wagner - 17 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA, at BKN, at PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. SAS, v. WAS, v. LAL)
Paolo Banchero - 6 (at MIA, v. IND, at ATL, at NOP, at WAS, at CHA)
Cole Anthony - 3 (v. MIA, at NYK, at MIL)
Tristan da Silva - 2 (v. BKN, at TOR)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. CHA, at CLE)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at BKN, at SAS)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. CHI)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. PHX)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. BOS)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (v. PHL)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. SAC)

Cummerbunds
Paolo Banchero - 6 (v. PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. CHA, at MIL, v. LAL)
Anthony Black - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. SAS, v. WAS, at CHA)
Jalen Suggs - 4 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL, v. PHX)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. WAS, at BKN, v. BKN, v. SAC)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (v. IND, v. PHL, at PHL)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 3 (v. CHI, at BKN, v. MIA)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 3 (at NYK, at CLE, at WAS)
Franz Wagner - 3 (at ATL, at NOP, at SAS)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CHA, at TOR)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Tristan da Silva - 1 (v. BOS)

Mittens
Anthony Black - 6 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND, at SAC, v. LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 5 (v. DET, at CHA, at NYK, v. DET, v. SAS)
Goga Bitadze - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. CHI, at BKN, v. WAS)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. PHX, v. BKN, v. PHL, at ATL)
Franz Wagner - 4 (at MIA, at BKN, at MIL, at CHA)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 2 (v. BOS, v. CHA)
Cory Joseph - 2 (at NOP, at WAS)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at CLE, at SAC)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (at PHL)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. MIA)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 1 (at TOR)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (at SAS)



2023-2024 Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 84
Franz Wagner - 62
Jalen Suggs - 45
Cole Anthony - 20
Jonathan Isaac - 19
Moritz Wagner - 16
Wendell Carter - 12
Goga Bitadze - 8
Anthony Black - 6
Joe Ingles - 3
Gary Harris - 2
Caleb Houstan - 2
Markelle Fultz - 2
Chuma Okeke - 1

2023-2024 Vests
Paolo Banchero - 19 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, at DEN, v. ATL, v. MIA, at SAS, v. NYK, v. UTA, v. DET, v. BKN, v. TOR, v. NOP, at NOP, v. MIL)
Franz Wagner - 9 (v. DEN, v. WAS, at WAS, v. NYK, at DET, v. SAS, v. CHI, v. BKN, at WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 7 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE, at DET, at TOR, v. CHA, v. CHI)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. HOU, v. CHA, at NYK, at CHA)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (at CHI, v. PHX, at MIN)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (at POR, v. BOS, at CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 2 (v. MEM, v. POR)

2023-2024 Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 15 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET, at IND, v. MIA, at SAS, at MIN, v. NYK, at TOR, v. TOR, at NOP, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 11 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS, at NYK, at DET, v. SAS, at DET, at WAS, v. MEM, v. CHI)
Jalen Suggs - 8 (v. MIL, v. WAS, v. NYK, at DEN, at UTA, v. BKN, v. NOP, v. POR)
Anthony Black - 3 (v. LAL, at WAS, at CHA)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHI)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. PHX, v. BKN)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CLE, v. CHA)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. ATL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 1 (v. DET)

2023-2024 Mittens
Jalen Suggs - 8 (at POR, v. WAS, v. ATL, at DET, v. SAS, at WAS, v. TOR, v. MEM)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (at CHI, at SAS, v. NYK, v. BKN, at TOR, v. MIL)
Paolo Banchero - 5 (v. CHA, at WAS, v. PHX, at CHA, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 5 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS, v. NOP, v. POR)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET, v. NYK)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. TOR, v. WAS, at DEN, v. CHI)
Wendell Carter Jr - 4 (at UTH, v. MIA, at MIN, v. BKN)
Joe Ingles - 3 (v. DEN, v. CLE, at CLE)
Mortiz Wagner - 3 (at DET, v. UTA, at NOP)
Gary Harris - 2 (at CHI, at IND)
Markelle Fultz - 2 (v. DET, v. CHI)
Chuma Okeke - 1 (at NYK)

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:55 am
by Knightro
V - Paolo
C - Franz
M - Isaac

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:01 am
by thelead
Paolo
Franz
JI

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:09 am
by eyriq
Paolo
Franz
KCP

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:15 am
by Audi
18 rebs is crazy work

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:43 am
by ORLMagicGirl15
Paolo
Franz
JI for his 4th quarter stretch.

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:02 am
by Bensational
Paolo
Franz
Isaac

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:04 am
by RichCollab
Paolo
Franz
KCP

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:08 am
by otownflava21
Banchero (career game)
Franz (was finally dropping 3s)
Isaac (throwback JI defense Tonight)

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:01 am
by Idiosyncratic
Paolo- I was a little frustrated with his decision making and over dribbling on offense, can't argue with the end results and terrific rebounding, still giving him vest.
Franz
Isaac- Some of the best 14 minutes of defense I have seen.

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:34 am
by drsd
I get why some here are voting for F-Wagner, but look, 18 rebounds is something as rare as a 50 point game.

And that rebounding differential (and TO differential) were decisive, Banchero's 18 boards was the major reason for the victory. He placed 8 assists in his assist total, by the way, on his 33 points.

i) put up stats
ii) stats led to win.

I don't understand why Banchero is not unanimous in this vest vote. Dude: 33/8/18. That's ridiculous.

And F-Wagner for cummerbund; wow what a game!

Caldwell-Pope for mittens. Another game were he does his job: shoot.

Lollis for Carter and Joseph - for also "doing their job". Anthony also has lolli moments. And Black becasue the plus/minus looks nice on his cv.

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 7:37 am
by jezzerinho
Paolo
Franz
JI

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 10:51 am
by yoyojw17
Toe socks for Wendell too ... For the moments of life I hate he showed.

Drive from the 3 point line for the finger roll
Swished free throw jumper
LOBBED DUNK
DEEP post catch and lay in

All the things I wished to see of him on the regular.

Stop being so timid and thinking that all you are is a 3 point shooter.

But yeah

Paolo
Franz
JI/kenny

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 12:45 pm
by JoshuaPotter
Knightro wrote:V - Paolo
C - Franz
M - Isaac

+1 from me. Isaac dominated in a game where we needed him to and was way past due and it was also a crappy team.

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:47 pm
by Knightro
Shoutout to KCP for finally playing like the guy the Magic paid for.

Only 4 months too late lmao.

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:28 pm
by JBSouthpaw
drsd wrote:I get why some here are voting for F-Wagner, but look, 18 rebounds is something as rare as a 50 point game.

And that rebounding differential (and TO differential) were decisive, Banchero's 18 boards was the major reason for the victory. He placed 8 assists in his assist total, by the way, on his 33 points.

i) put up stats
ii) stats led to win.

I don't understand why Banchero is not unanimous in this vest vote. Dude: 33/8/18. That's ridiculous.

And F-Wagner for cummerbund; wow what a game!

Caldwell-Pope for mittens. Another game were he does his job: shoot.

Lollis for Carter and Joseph - for also "doing their job". Anthony also has lolli moments. And Black becasue the plus/minus looks nice on his cv.


Reasoning for non PB votes:
Paolo had 4, which was half the teams TO.
PB shot 46% from the floor. (42% on 2s) compared to Franz @ 52% FG, (58% on 2s)
Franz led on +/-

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:35 pm
by drsd
JBSouthpaw wrote:Reasoning for non PB votes:
Paolo had 4, which was half the teams TO.
PB shot 46% from the floor. (42% on 2s) compared to Franz @ 52% FG, (58% on 2s)
Franz led on +/-


I get it but I would add.

Banchero's 8 assists on 4 TOs is still a glowing beautiful 2 assist/TO line.

Banchero has a nice eFG% line; better than F-Wagner's. (and made 4 more FTs)

F-Wagner leading on plus/minus; people trash me most games for stating this stat. So I thus have authority to spin it around.
And I won't. This plus/minus difference was because F-Wagner took a small lead in the top of the 4th to a big lead; Banchero was not on the court for that.
This is all props to F-Wagner.
Specifically there was a 7-0 run to start the top of the 4th to "end" the game.


In conclusion: I do understand the F-Wagner votes. It's just that the votes are incorrect. Banchero's 18 rebounds means something!

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Fri Apr 4, 2025 11:50 pm
by RichCollab
drsd wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:Reasoning for non PB votes:
Paolo had 4, which was half the teams TO.
PB shot 46% from the floor. (42% on 2s) compared to Franz @ 52% FG, (58% on 2s)
Franz led on +/-


I get it but I would add.

Banchero's 8 assists on 4 TOs is still a glowing beautiful 2 assist/TO line.

Banchero has a nice eFG% line; better than F-Wagner's. (and made 4 more FTs)

F-Wagner leading on plus/minus; people trash me most games for stating this stat. So I thus have authority to spin it around.
And I won't. This plus/minus difference was because F-Wagner took a small lead in the top of the 4th to a big lead; Banchero was not on the court for that.
This is all props to F-Wagner.
Specifically there was a 7-0 run to start the top of the 4th to "end" the game.


In conclusion: I do understand the F-Wagner votes. It's just that the votes are incorrect. Banchero's 18 rebounds means something!


Who are you to tell people how to vote?

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:41 am
by Knightro
Vest No. 38 Results
Vest - Paolo Banchero
Cummerbund - Franz Wagner
Mittens - Jonathan Isaac

Re: Sweater Vest Thread #38: Magic 109 - Wizards 97

Posted: Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:42 am
by Knightro
2024-2025 Season Standings (3-2-1 scale)
Franz Wagner - 60
Paolo Banchero - 35
Anthony Black - 22
Cole Anthony - 17
Goga Bitadze - 16
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 13
Jonathan Isaac - 13
Jalen Suggs - 11
Tristan da Silva - 8
Wendell Carter Jr. - 8
Moritz Wagner - 7
Caleb Houstan - 4
Trevelin Queen - 4
Gary Harris - 2
Cory Joseph - 2

Vests
Franz Wagner - 17 (v. BKN, v. NOP, v. WAS, v. CHA, v. IND, v. PHL, at PHX, at LAL, v. DET, at CHA, at BKN, at PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. SAS, v. WAS, v. LAL)
Paolo Banchero - 7 (at MIA, v. IND, at ATL, at NOP, at WAS, at CHA, at WAS)
Cole Anthony - 3 (v. MIA, at NYK, at MIL)
Tristan da Silva - 2 (v. BKN, at TOR)
Anthony Black - 2 (v. CHA, at CLE)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 2 (at BKN, at SAS)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (v. CHI)
Goga Bitadze - 1 (v. PHX)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. BOS)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (v. PHL)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (v. SAC)

Cummerbunds
Paolo Banchero - 6 (v. PHL, v. DET, at SAC, v. CHA, at MIL, v. LAL)
Anthony Black - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. SAS, v. WAS, at CHA)
Jalen Suggs - 4 (v. IND, v. CHA, at LAL, v. PHX)
Goga Bitadze - 4 (v. WAS, at BKN, v. BKN, v. SAC)
Franz Wagner - 4 (at ATL, at NOP, at SAS, at WAS)
Jonathan Isaac - 3 (v. IND, v. PHL, at PHL)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 3 (v. CHI, at BKN, v. MIA)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 3 (at NYK, at CLE, at WAS)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (v. BKN, v. DET)
Cole Anthony - 2 (at CHA, at TOR)
Gary Harris - 1 (at MIA)
Tristan da Silva - 1 (v. BOS)

Mittens
Anthony Black - 6 (v. BKN, v. IND, v. WAS, v. IND, at SAC, v. LAL)
Jonathan Isaac - 6 (v. DET, at CHA, at NYK, v. DET, v. SAS, at WAS)
Goga Bitadze - 5 (v. NOP, at PHX, v. CHI, at BKN, v. WAS)
Cole Anthony - 4 (v. PHX, v. BKN, v. PHL, at ATL)
Franz Wagner - 4 (at MIA, at BKN, at MIL, at CHA)
Moritz Wagner - 3 (v. CHA, v. PHL, at LAL)
Wendell Carter Jr. - 2 (v. BOS, v. CHA)
Cory Joseph - 2 (at NOP, at WAS)
Paolo Banchero - 2 (at CLE, at SAC)
Jalen Suggs - 1 (at PHL)
Trevelin Queen - 1 (v. MIA)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 1 (at TOR)
Caleb Houstan - 1 (at SAS)