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Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:46 pm**

Could make an argument for Steve Francis but imo Bane affects the game in a more positive way than Dribble-heavy Stevie Franchise did.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:55 pm**

I'd rank the top 10 as:

Tier 1:
1. T-Mac

Tier 2:
2. Bane

Tier 3:
3. Oladipo
4. Vince
5. Richardson

Tier 4:
6. Suggs
7. Afflalo
8. Nick

Tier 5:
9. T-Ross
10. Fournier

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:58 pm**

Let him play here first.

Posted: **Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:59 pm**

Since Vince Carter.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:09 am**

Reminds me of a more athletic Chauncey Billups.. You gotta respect his range, strong enough to get to the rim and sees the floor well.

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Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:21 am**

Steve Francis really did play all-star level ball before he got depressed after the Mobley trade. He should have made the all-star team that year and was a major snub.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:18 pm**

eyriq wrote:I'd rank the top 10 as:

Tier 1:
1. T-Mac

Tier 2:
2. Bane

Tier 3:
3. Oladipo
4. Vince
5. Richardson

Tier 4:
6. Suggs
7. Afflalo
8. Nick

Tier 5:
9. T-Ross
10. Fournier

No Steve Francis in the top 10? Is this a joke?

Where the flip is Penny?

Is this an AI post?

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:23 pm**

1) Penny

2) T mac

T mac played for his stats only.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:24 pm**

OrlandoDream wrote:Since Vince Carter.

2010 VC? More talented, definitely.

But the best? Bane is already more efficient than him.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:25 pm**

JoshuaPotter wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'd rank the top 10 as:

Tier 1:
1. T-Mac

Tier 2:
2. Bane

Tier 3:
3. Oladipo
4. Vince
5. Richardson

Tier 4:
6. Suggs
7. Afflalo
8. Nick

Tier 5:
9. T-Ross
10. Fournier

No Steve Francis in the top 10? Is this a joke?

Where the flip is Penny?

Is this an AI post?

read the thread title again please.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:26 pm**

The-Stallion70 wrote:Could make an argument for Steve Francis but imo Bane affects the game in a more positive way than Dribble-heavy Stevie Franchise did.

No. Travis Diener is better than Bane.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:57 pm**

JoshuaPotter wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'd rank the top 10 as:

Tier 1:
1. T-Mac

Tier 2:
2. Bane

Tier 3:
3. Oladipo
4. Vince
5. Richardson

Tier 4:
6. Suggs
7. Afflalo
8. Nick

Tier 5:
9. T-Ross
10. Fournier

No Steve Francis in the top 10? Is this a joke?

Where the flip is Penny?

Is this an AI post?

I have them as point guards not shooting forwards

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:58 pm**

fendilim wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'd rank the top 10 as:

Tier 1:
1. T-Mac

Tier 2:
2. Bane

Tier 3:
3. Oladipo
4. Vince
5. Richardson

Tier 4:
6. Suggs
7. Afflalo
8. Nick

Tier 5:
9. T-Ross
10. Fournier

No Steve Francis in the top 10? Is this a joke?

Where the flip is Penny?

Is this an AI post?
read the thread title again please.

Oh, I had a reading comprehension breakdown, my bad

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:00 pm**

eyriq wrote:
fendilim wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
No Steve Francis in the top 10? Is this a joke?

Where the flip is Penny?

Is this an AI post?
read the thread title again please.
Oh, I had a reading comprehension breakdown, my bad

Was referring to Penny

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:12 pm**

I think starting at the Tracy era and looking at all guards I'd rank Steve slightly ahead of Bane.

Tier 1:
1. Tracy McGrady

Tier 2:
2. Steve Francis
3. Bane

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:14 pm**

Putting it into perspective like this is honestly embarrassing for our franchise.

Also it looks like everyone forgot about Jameer Nelson or we're just doing shooting guards.

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:17 pm**

Bane is a lot better than VC was in the one year he was here. We had VC post-knee injuries and he was no longer a star.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=cartevi01&p1yrfrom=2010&p1yrto=2010&player_id2=banede01&p2yrfrom=2025&p2yrto=2025

Posted: **Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:18 pm**

fendilim wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:Could make an argument for Steve Francis but imo Bane affects the game in a more positive way than Dribble-heavy Stevie Franchise did.

No. Travis Diener is better than Bane.

Were discussing players not deities.

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