Can we afford to overpay Miles Turner now

three3d · Post #1 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:56 pm

With all the draft picks we’ve just moved and the assumption we’re all in are we able to overpay for Miles Turner this summer? We need a defensive center and a floor spacer to draw his defender out from under the basket for Paolo and Franz to operate. Miles Tuner clearly checks both boxes with a respectable 3 point shot and the ability to block shots, should he now be the clear cut target off the summer? What are the consequences for over paying him and what could we realistically offer?

AdamTheGreek · Post #2 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:06 pm

We have no money.

There’s no sign-and-trade option because Turner would demand a large salary.

three3d · Post #3 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:12 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:We have no money.

There’s no sign-and-trade option because Turner would demand a large salary.

There’s money , it just luxury tax and WCJ or Issac could be useful as trade pieces

fendilim · Post #4 » by **fendilim** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:15 pm

Underpay, yes.

Overpay, no.

three3d · Post #5 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:21 pm

fendilim wrote:Underpay, yes.

Overpay, no.

Bane doesn’t make sense if you’re not shoving your chips all in. Realistically not going to be able to underpay a starting center that can play defense and has a respectable stroke. A back to the basket center is a detriment to Paolo and Franz, we’ve got to be able to clear out the paint. Bane automatically is a spot up threat and clears out one side of the floor. Turner could he the great equalizer, is there another center available this summer that can do that for us?

fendilim · Post #6 » by **fendilim** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:30 pm

If I were Weltman, I’d rather go for former Pacers big man Jalen Smith.

Not as a starting C, but the guy can also block shots, shoot 3s and a better rebounder than Turner.

three3d · Post #7 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:34 pm

An interesting focal point of the Bane acquisition could be the similarities between Jackson Jr and Myles Turner.

While there are similarities, Jaren Jackson Jr. and Myles Turner have some key differences in their basketball styles.
Similarities:
Defensive Prowess: Both players are known for their exceptional shot-blocking abilities and overall defensive impact.
Three-point shooting: Both are capable of stretching the floor and hitting three-pointers, which is valuable for big men in today's NBA.
Differences:
Offensive Focus: Jackson's offensive game is considered more polished, with a slightly higher scoring average.
Rebounding: Turner tends to be a more dominant rebounder.
Draft Comparisons: While some have drawn comparisons between the two, especially during Jackson's draft year, others have noted differences in their athleticism and overall game.
Production as Rookies: While their college stats were similar, Turner was more polished after three seasons in the league compared to Jackson as a rookie.
Overall

Post #8 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:44 pm

Turner is extremely mid. Hard pass.

RichCollab · Post #9 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:51 pm

We aren’t adding Turner. Pacers sound like they are making him the #1 priority.

three3d · Post #10 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:53 pm

eyriq wrote:Turner is extremely mid. Hard pass.

What exactly is he extremely mid at honestly? He’s 35th in the league in rebounding this season, he’s shooting the 3 ball at 39.6% this season ( 35% & 37% previous two seasons ) averaging right at or above 2 blocks per game his last 7 seasons. We don’t need him to carry the offensive load, we need him to stay around those percentages at his low 19.6% usage rate .

three3d · Post #11 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:56 pm

RichCollab wrote:We aren’t adding Turner. Pacers sound like they are making him the #1 priority.

He’s unrestricted so he at least has the option and controls what he does himself mostly.

RichCollab · Post #12 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:01 pm

three3d wrote:
RichCollab wrote:We aren’t adding Turner. Pacers sound like they are making him the #1 priority.

He’s unrestricted so he at least has the option and controls what he does himself mostly.

He is going to get 25 million+ per year? Where does that money come from?

three3d · Post #13 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:03 pm

RichCollab wrote:
three3d wrote:
RichCollab wrote:We aren’t adding Turner. Pacers sound like they are making him the #1 priority.

He’s unrestricted so he at least has the option and controls what he does himself mostly.

He is going to get 25 million+ per year? Where does that money come from?

Start with shipping out WCJ and JI.

RichCollab · Post #14 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:04 pm

three3d wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
three3d wrote:
He’s unrestricted so he at least has the option and controls what he does himself mostly.

He is going to get 25 million+ per year? Where does that money come from?

Start with shipping out WCJ and JI.

I don’t see it personally. We aren’t players in FA at all except maybe for MLE.

three3d · Post #15 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:11 pm

RichCollab wrote:
three3d wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
He is going to get 25 million+ per year? Where does that money come from?

Start with shipping out WCJ and JI.

I don’t see it personally. We aren’t players in FA at all except maybe for MLE.

You’re probably right but they have to start looking at trimming some fat off this roster. WCJ, JI, and Gary Harris should be gone. We’ve got to keep some low salaries to have some balance for the core 4 so that makes Jet and Houston’s contracts more valuable to the team than their actual play.

tiderulz · Post #16 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:40 pm

three3d wrote:With all the draft picks we’ve just moved and the assumption we’re all in are we able to overpay for Miles Turner this summer? We need a defensive center and a floor spacer to draw his defender out from under the basket for Paolo and Franz to operate. Miles Tuner clearly checks both boxes with a respectable 3 point shot and the ability to block shots, should he now be the clear cut target off the summer? What are the consequences for over paying him and what could we realistically offer?

Turner really isnt a defensive center though. Has some blocked shots, but he really isnt that great defensively

Rainwater · Post #17 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:10 pm

When was Turner ever a priority? lol. The priority is the guard positions and shooting. The Magic never had the ability to sign Turner out right. And the organization even stated that they are not looking at free agent market but the trade market.

p0peye · Post #18 » by **p0peye** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:12 pm

I can't see us as buyers, we will probably stay put and start cutting guys with team options like Harris this offseason and Isaac and Moe next.

JF5 · Post #19 » by **JF5** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:21 pm

This team needs more guard help than anything. I believe Wendell and a lot of the other bigs will look better with more competent guard/perimeter play.

But the Magic do need a replacement/backup big option for cheap.

three3d · Post #20 » by **three3d** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:36 pm

Rainwater wrote:When was Turner ever a priority? lol. The priority is the guard positions and shooting. The Magic never had the ability to sign Turner out right. And the organization even stated that they are not looking at free agent market but the trade market.

WCJ is the weakest point in the starting lineup right now. We don’t have a point guard but there’s now way Suggs and Bane aren’t the two starting guards day one if healthy. I absolutely don’t agree with this no true point guard approach but Weltman will live or die by it.