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MIL-ORL trade idea

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:42 am
by 1eyedjake
Ok, I very rarely post trades and Hedo is doing a fantastic job this year, I'd hate to see him go, but this is and idea based around the article stating that Milwaukee are putting most of their team on the trade plate, except for Yi and Bogut.

According to MIL fans, their biggest need is at SF.... so....

Orlando trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Two 1st round picks

Orlando Receives:
Michael Redd

Milwaukee trades:
Michael Redd

Milwaukee receives:
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity

Why for Orlando:
To shore up the SG position. I'm hesitant to deal Hedo, as well as he's been playing this year. He's really been the spine of the team this season... however, this frees up Rashard Lewis to play permanently at SF, with Redd at SG.
A follow up deal would be required by Orlando to find a replacement PF, preferably one who can adequately defend and hit any open shots that are left from Howard being double teamed. Trade bait would be the expirings of Evans, Bogans and Dooling.
Another 'hole' remains at PG, where Nelson is more vulnerable without Arroyo and without Hedo's playmaking. I'd love to see Andre Miller or another equally capable PG in Orlando but they probably don't have the assets to do this deal and another for a PG... especially given the more pressing PF need if Turkoglu is gone.


Why for Milwaukee:
With their season starting to slip following losses such as the massive one to Detroit, this is primarily a cost-cutting deal. They essentially halve the money owed to Redd from their books at the end of the season with the two expiring deals of Arroyo and Garrity.
In addition they get a SF to plug the hole they have there who is playing almost as well as Redd. Hedo's playmaking ability helps Mo Williams play a little more off the ball, freeing him to score more.
They also get two 1st round picks out of the deal.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:51 am
by magicman123
i would do almost anything to get a descent 2 guard (redd is more)..but that is crazy

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:57 am
by 1eyedjake
why is it crazy?

Please elaborate.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:58 am
by Magic Stick
Orlando trades:
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Two 1st round picks

and Fran Vazquez,

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:02 am
by 1eyedjake
Fran Vasquez isn't included in my deal... the one position MIL is pretty set at right now is PF/C.
I'd include Vasquez and another expiring if they were willing to deal Villanueva. That's not ideal... we'd have a lot of problems defensively with Villanueva at PF... but it wouldn't be horrible either.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:12 am
by Magic Stick
Voy a escribir en espa

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:20 am
by OMPunk
Magic Stick wrote:Voy a escribir en espa

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:23 am
by magicman123
well its not to crazy,(cooled down from the tip in) it is a big need at that position...but trading hedo, arroyo, garrity and 2 first rounders for redd...we should take out a first or get back another big with redd, do that and maybe why not, in my mood
we still have a whole at sf or pf depending on who starts at what position from the bench..

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:23 am
by 1eyedjake
I don't speak Spanish.

Please type in English...

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:25 am
by crazytown
Trade works out financially but I don't see us trading Hedo.

Personally, I'd rather make a run at Artest. Maybe package Arroyo's and Garrity's expiring contracts. Don't know if the Kings would do it though.

Expiring contracts is about all we have to offer at this point. Nobody wants Nelson's contract.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:35 am
by 1eyedjake
I'd love Artest also but you have to admit, Redd fits the wholesome Orlando image the owners want much more.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:46 am
by magicman123
yea we need a pounder or a tough guy..

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:13 am
by Devin 1L
Magic Stick wrote:Voy a escribir en espa

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:04 am
by SpaceJam
How about Anthony Parker?

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:11 am
by 1eyedjake
SpaceJam wrote:How about Anthony Parker?


what about Anthony Parker??

Anthony Parker has nothing to do with this thread.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:33 am
by EasternMagic
we need a power forward not another chucker

Kenny Thomas

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:40 am
by MJallday59
How about Garrity and a 2nd rounder for Kenny Thomas of Sacramento?

Re: Kenny Thomas

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:18 am
by 1eyedjake
MJallday59 wrote:How about Garrity and a 2nd rounder for Kenny Thomas of Sacramento?


I'd do something similar (involving our expiring contract SGs maybe) AFTER this trade but I think I'd rather see what our expirings can get us before settling on an average PF.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:18 am
by DaveMustaine
The TWO first rounders make it way too much for Redd. I would do that deal, but with only one first rounder in there. Also, I wouldn't call Redd a chucker by any means, that guy is a straight out stud. Orlando needs to be making a run at Andre Miller, he's the guy that could make them challenge Boston to represent the East in the finals.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:21 am
by 1eyedjake
DaveMustaine wrote:The TWO first rounders make it way too much for Redd. I would do that deal, but with only one first rounder in there. Also, I wouldn't call Redd a chucker by any means, that guy is a straight out stud. Orlando needs to be making a run at Andre Miller, he's the guy that could make them challenge Boston to represent the East in the finals.


I've already posted an Andre Miller trade that Philly and Orlando fans both seemed to like...
Basically, Miller/Evans for Arroyo/Dooling/Garrity 1st.

So, I agree, but I also think Redd should be persued if he can be had with this kind of deal.