Bulls @ Magic 7PM 01/15

magicman123 · Post #361 » by **magicman123** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:29 am

TooNice00 wrote:trade arroyo and dooling.

TheMadMagician · Post #362 » by **TheMadMagician** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:30 am

thEthIEf wrote:alright......give me a few seconds, the words are coming....

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trade Dooling...

Wow, are you some kind of psychic? :lol:

paperboymafia · Post #363 » by **paperboymafia** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:30 am

i wouldnt mind seeing dooling moved.

theTHIEF · Post #364 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:30 am

i love Dooling...

oh well...

Post #365 » by **magik9113** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:32 am

yea I like Dooling most of the time

magicman123 · Post #366 » by **magicman123** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:32 am

id rather see arroyo then dooling go..

TheMadMagician · Post #367 » by **TheMadMagician** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:33 am

Arroyo for any other PG in the NBA.

PimpORL · Post #368 » by **PimpORL** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:35 am

taruky1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Here come the vultures

No, Turkoglu has always been one of my favorite players, but we're just not good with him controlling the ball. He's getting too much love just because of his stats. There's a reason his +/- is -1.5. I just don't think the Magic can be consistent with Turkoglu or win with him trying to be the main man. Trading Arroyo is even better though.

Post #369 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:36 am

I like Dooling as a bench player too, plus he plays with fire and passion, plus he beats up Ray Allen.

theTHIEF · Post #370 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:38 am

man, re-watching some of this game, talk about some BS calls around the basket...the Magic got called for 2 bologna flops by Thomas too...Chicago also got some bad calls on the outside of the block where Gray got hammered, and Noah got smacked in the neck...

TooNice00 · Post #371 » by **TooNice00** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:38 am

the key is hedo, rashard, and howard all going at the same time.

TheMadMagician · Post #372 » by **TheMadMagician** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:39 am

Soul wrote:I like Dooling as a bench player too, plus he plays with fire and passion, plus he beats up Ray Allen.

I wish I was paid 3 mil a year to beat up Ray Allen

I'd probably get my ass kicked though

theTHIEF · Post #373 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:39 am

also...how nuts would it be if Cook became a force for us off the bench? he could be like a softy Diaw for us, minus the boards and some of the passing...

Post #374 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 am

I hate how Stan says tremendous.. ............ tremindus.

Post #375 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 am

thEthIEf wrote:also...how nuts would it be if Cook became a force for us off the bench? he could be like a softy Diaw for us, minus the boards and some of the passing...

+ a 3 point shot..

which would be like, not Diaw :lol:

theTHIEF · Post #376 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:41 am

Diaw has range...dont fool yourself...

TooNice00 · Post #377 » by **TooNice00** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:47 am

yeah hedo better be back to normal at latest against portland, but hopefully tomorrow.

taruky1 · Post #378 » by **taruky1** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:47 am

PimpORL wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No, Turkoglu has always been one of my favorite players, but we're just not good with him controlling the ball. He's getting too much love just because of his stats. There's a reason his +/- is -1.5. I just don't think the Magic can be consistent with Turkoglu or win with him trying to be the main man. Trading Arroyo is even better though.

+/- is not a very reliable stat. It depends on substitution patterns, etc. Hedo hasn't been "controlling the ball" in his recent slump, the 4th tonight was a matter of him pressing and just trying to get out of a slump. As a matter of fact, a great many of his shots in general have come in the 4th when his scoring and playmaking was needed. You look at his shot totals in the 1st quarter over the past month or so, he has shot very little. I think people here make generalizations based on the tide at the moment (unless you're karizma or Toonice). Happened when Rashard was slumping, now it's happening with Hedo slumping. If Hedo's slump does have something to do with Rashard's reemergence (which I doubt, I think it's simply a matter of him feeling snakebitten at the moment), I'm sure he'll adjust. I mean he really has had terrible luck lately with shots rimming out (his first shot tonight went in and out), getting fouled with no calls, etc. It's mental right now.

theTHIEF · Post #379 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:48 am

+/- is probably the worst stat tracked since block attempts...

Post #380 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:53 am

Shard on ESPN shoot a round