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Trade Proposal: ORL/PHI/WAS 

Post#1 » by TheRevTy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:39 pm

Orlando Sends:

Keyon Dooling
JJ Redick
Pat Garrity
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo

Orlando Recieves:

Gilbert Arenas
Etan Thomas
Rodney Carney


Washington Sends:

Gilbert Arenas
Etan Thomas

Washington Recieves:

Hedo Turkoglu
Andre Miller


Philadelphia Sends:

Andre Miller
Rodney Carney

Philadelphia Recieves:

Keyon Dooling
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
JJ Redick



How do ya like them apples? Philly gets their expirings and JJ, Washington gets quite the shiny package for Arenas, they could even use either piece in a later trade, and Orlando gets a bonafied all-star, a quality big man, and a SF/SG with potential (not to mention rids themselves of Dooyo). It may take a pick to sweeten the deal for Philly, but that is doable.

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Post#2 » by mhectorgato » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:41 pm

If I say "I don't like it " am I an pessimistic fan?

If I say "I like it " am I an optimistic fan?
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Post#3 » by TheRevTy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:43 pm

Depends which pill you took.
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Post#4 » by j-ragg » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:46 pm

The trade definitely helps us, as do most every trade on this board.


Philly takes a long, hard you-know-what in the you-know-what.
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Post#5 » by N4U|Redux » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:47 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post#6 » by TheRevTy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:49 pm

A long hard look in the mirror?

Seriously though, I thought they wanted to rebuild, and thus wanted expirings? Also, is Carney one of their building blocks, or is he tradeable? Would adding a first rounder make them think harder? So many questions, so few people who know the real answers...
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Post#7 » by laVal03 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:50 pm

I'd love it, but I think washington also needs a pick to sweeten the deal, I think they would shoot it down before anyone (obvioisly we don't as it is geared towards us imo)

also alot of payroll when considering gil's extension, we'd prolly be better off with a pass first type pg
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Post#8 » by laVal03 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:51 pm

but we all can dream, right?
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Post#9 » by TheRevTy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:52 pm

Alright, my bad folks. I guess I over-valued where I should have under-valued, and so on and such forth. Happens to the best of us. Disregard.
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Post#10 » by mhectorgato » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:52 pm

laVal03 wrote:but we all can dream, right?


Lewis for Timmy.
Expirings for Kobe.
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Post#11 » by laVal03 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:53 pm

lets just make a deal straight up with philly for andre miller!
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Post#12 » by BN » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:55 pm

TheRevTy wrote:Alright, my bad folks. I guess I over-valued where I should have under-valued, and so on and such forth. Happens to the best of us. Disregard.


Nope, doesn't happen to me, because you see, I'm a good trader :wink:

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Post#13 » by theTHIEF » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:59 pm

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Post#14 » by laVal03 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:00 am

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Lewis for Timmy.
Expirings for Kobe.


still no championship caliber PG, does Hedo and evans for manu and parker work?
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Post#15 » by N4U|Redux » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:02 am

^^ So, we'd be the Spurs with Dwight and Kobe?

w00t, sounds nice.

Finally would get Tim here, I think he regrets not signing here, look at all the things we've accomplished that he hasn't.
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Post#16 » by Bensational » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:17 am

i don't even like Arenas and he's now had two back to back season ending injuries. messed up.

although, i wouldn't say the value for Arenas is far off in the trade.

plus Philly would probably want a few 1sts thrown in there for good measure.


i'd rather just deal straight up for Miller.
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Post#17 » by mattyBoi » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:23 am

If we could find a way to resign Arenas id say go for it!!
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Post#18 » by dmac812 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:45 am

we were all ballboys at one point.....right guys? lol :lol:
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Post#19 » by flyingvee » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:36 am

A healthy Arenas is leagues better than what we have now. I'll take his 5.5 apg and 4rpg and 2spg along with a 24ppg anyday over Nelson. Arenas and Howard would go a lot farther than Howard and Lewis ever will.
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Post#20 » by TheRevTy » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:31 am

Ya know, if you don't look at the overall picture of who got what, I think there is somewhat valuable return. If Gilbert really was talking about leavings Washington, Hedo and Miller would be pretty good to get back, perhaps plus a draft pick. Add in getting rid of Thomas's contract (or is he valuable with them now? I remember this summer they wanted either him or Haywood gone because of similar games, clashing personalities, and similarly poor contracts) and it should be ok for them. All along I thought Philly wanted expirings and youth for Andre Miller. Getting Carney could be a stretch, not sure how high they are on him, but they also seemed to get what they hoped for. If you pay no attention to us sending out expirings and Hedo and getting everything we need back, which seems too good to be true, it at least looks like everyone gets a decent return for their outgoings. However, I think I made mistake #1 and misvalued key components. Anyone have anyway to fix this, or is it beyond hope?

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