Orlando/Chi/Miami trade

[ARodr21]

Bulls Trade
Ben Wallace
Ben Gordon
Bulls Receive
Pat Garrity
Jason Williams
J.J. Redick
Bulls make this trade as they believe Wallace and Gordon's presence do more harm then help a team in transition. Sefolosa full time at Shooting guard as we can see makes a difference on Defense and Offense getting Redick back in the deal allows to keep a gunner off the bench. Jason Williams is just an expiring filler who should be bought out and let loose before ever putting on a Bulls uniform...

Orlando Trades
Pat Garrity
J.J. Redick
Brian Cook
Keyon Dooling
Carlos Arroyo
Orlando Receives
Ben Gordon
Ben Wallace

Deal doe not need much explaining one of the best 3pt shooting teams get better and Defensively get a guy who can put them over the top i winning a championship.

Miami Trades
Jason Williams
Miami receives
Brian Cook
Keyon Dooling
Carlos Arroyo

Miami in this deal gets a change at pointguard where they feel they need it most. Both Dolling and Arroyo are guys Riley has liked or targeted in the past and would be going after this summer anyway. While Cook is only a filler who I think can help spread the court for Shaq and Wade.
If necessary Chicago and Orlando can throw 2nd round picks at Miami.

This is a minor deal that can benefit all teams.

[Driguez]

yay a trade without hedo in it! minor deal? btw aint happening...

[ARodr21]

Why not??

As a Bulls fan I can tell you many of us would do it.

Dont see why Orlando would not.

[EasternMagic]

not way i dont want ben wallace

[ARodr21]

Wallace next to Howard playing weakside D would look like a DPOY again and he might be what you need to get through the Pistons and Celtics this post season.

[Driguez]

Why not??

As a Bulls fan I can tell you many of us would do it.

Dont see why Orlando would not.

Ben Wallace? Theres a reason u guys want to get rid of him...

[LBPTarHeel27]

change arroyo to bogans and you got yourself a deal...we need a PG

[ARodr21]

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Ben Wallace? Theres a reason u guys want to get rid of him...

Main reason is we no longer need him as we are no longer contenders and he only hurts the development of the younger guys behind him. I think Wallace puts your front court over the top i being a contender in the East and his contract after this season has 2 years left and it decreases instead of increasing unlike most players. So as a Magic fan I would think of him as a 2 year rental before he is an expiring contract and a rental that put you over at winning the East with your only competition being Detroit and Boston.

And after such a trade I would assume The Magic would be favorites according to most.

[ARodr21]

change arroyo to bogans and you got yourself a deal...we need a PG

I think Miami much rather have Arroyo(FIU guy) who Riley has targeted in the past and probably will again this summer.

Think of Jason Williams as soon to be available when the Bulls buy him out and he wants to return home anyway as he owns a home in Orlando. Does he not?

[MoGrAdY]

Why in the world would Chicago do this? If this was offered you obviously take it. BG can absolutely light it up, and if he was playing off of Howard that would be scary. Bring him off the bench like they do in Chicago or bring hedo off the bench and start BG at the 2. Ben Wallace isnt as good as he once was but hes still tough as nails. Good rebounder and shotblocker, exactly what we need. The major problem is BG would need a big extension and we'd be in tax hell..

[ARodr21]

Why in the world would Chicago do this? If this was offered you obviously take it. BG can absolutely light it up, and if he was playing off of Howard that would be scary. Bring him off the bench like they do in Chicago or bring hedo off the bench and start BG at the 2. Ben Wallace isnt as good as he once was but hes still tough as nails. Good rebounder and shotblocker, exactly what we need. The major problem is BG would need a big extension and we'd be in tax hell..

This was the reaction I expected with Miami being the tuff sell.

[laVal03]

so who backs up jameer at PG?

[The Letter J]

Wallace is a bad fit with Dwight and a bad fit contract wise. This trade also takes our options at PG and returns no alternatives.

New Line-up;

PG: Nelson/Stuff the dragon
SG: Gordon/Evans
SF: Lewis/Hedo
PF: Wallace
C: Howard/Foyle

[MoGrAdY]

Wallace is a bad fit with Dwight and a bad fit contract wise. This trade also takes our options at PG and returns no alternatives.

New Line-up;

PG: Nelson/Stuff the dragon
SG: Gordon/Evans
SF: Lewis/Hedo
PF: Wallace
C: Howard/Foyle

Funny thing is that PG rotation is prolly better. Its not too hard to go find a decent backup PG.

[MagicNolesFSU]

we have TWO of them hahaha

and no way in hell i want ben wallace.

And gordan doesnt play any defense either. So nooooo

[EasternMagic]

no way

[j-ragg]

No thanks.



Not an awful trade talent wise, but with Wallace's contract and the fact that he does nothing useful for Dwight's offense and the fact that we'd have to give BG a lot of cash if we wanted to keep him kind of makes me say no.

Wouldn't mind Hinrich though.

[lovehoops01]

Why not??

As a Bulls fan I can tell you many of us would do it.

Dont see why Orlando would not.

I can give you a good reason. Because it leaves Orlando with only one point guard. And even if Jason Williams is going to be a free agent and lives in Orlando, he isn't getting any healthier next season either. His knees have been getting progressively worse.

John Paxson created the roster and salary situations Chicago has got. I don't expect Otis to bail him out by taking Wallace's contract off his hands and then having to try to deal with Gordon's contract in the offseason. Good luck with that, though.

[Bensational]

I can give you a good reason. Because it leaves Orlando with only one point guard. And even if Jason Williams is going to be a free agent and lives in Orlando, he isn't getting any healthier next season either. His knees have been getting progressively worse.

John Paxson created the roster and salary situations Chicago has got. I don't expect Otis to bail him out by taking Wallace's contract off his hands and then having to try to deal with Gordon's contract in the offseason. Good luck with that, though.

i don't mind the Magic absorbing a contract like Wallace's as long as a really nice talent comes with it. like Noah/Thomas + Duhon. Ben Gordon just doesn't seem like a fit to me.

we'd be stuckin in luxury tax hell for a couple seasons and we'd lose half the roster that's responsible for our current record. waaaaay too much of a gamble.

[lovehoops01]

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i don't mind the Magic absorbing a contract like Wallace's as long as a really nice talent comes with it. like Noah/Thomas + Duhon. Ben Gordon just doesn't seem like a fit to me.

we'd be stuckin in luxury tax hell for a couple seasons and we'd lose half the roster that's responsible for our current record. waaaaay too much of a gamble.

There is another radio-rumored deal out there involving the Suns and Bulls that actually makes more sense to me. The Bulls would send Wallace and something to Phoenix for Shawn Marion, whose contract is about to expire.

Then the Bulls could start Joakim Noah to give him experience as long as they are a long playoff shot at this point, and if they want cap space or to have the room to re-sign Deng and Gordon, they could let Marion expire and then re-sign those guys or go out and sign a free agent. Phoenix gets some help with its defense.

Bulls fans love that deal because they seem to hate Big Ben all of a sudden. Who ever thought that Ben would become such a disliked character among his own team's fans? Not me.

I don't know if I'd mind the deal so much, as long as the Magic could keep either Keyon or Carlos because they won't be able to afford to re-sign Gordon, too. My main concern would be that I don't think that Dwight and Ben would be able to play on the court at the same time. They need the same space. And Gordon and Jameer couldn't play at the same time because that would be a tiny backcourt. It would be a shame to give up on Redick like that, but I'm not knowing what management is thinking about him long term.