Page 1 of 2
NJ fan trade offer Carter for expirings
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:02 pm
by leo6287
Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.0 ppg, +0.3 rpg, and -1.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Vince Carter 6-6 SG / SF from North Carolina
20.9 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 38.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Fran Vazquez 0-0 from
No games yet played in 2007/08
Keyon Dooling 6-3 PG from Missouri
8.2 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 18.6 minutes
Pat Garrity 6-9 PF from Notre Dame
2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.6 minutes
Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International
6.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.7 apg in 20.9 minutes
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:04 pm
by theTHIEF
well, if we can get Carter for cheap, we'd have to jump on it...but, Orlando is left with 1 "PG" after this...so....
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 pm
by Jiwol
thEthIEf wrote:well, if we can get Carter for cheap, we'd have to jump on it...but, Orlando is left with 1 "PG" after this...so....

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:08 pm
by leo6287
thEthIEf wrote:well, if we can get Carter for cheap, we'd have to jump on it...but, Orlando is left with 1 "PG" after this...so....
What we sign a FA or ohh wait maybe trade for one like
Watson 4 JJ autustine and TE after the Cater trade
Sorry

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:11 pm
by theTHIEF
so just keep piling on the salary and make a multitude of moves...i get your strategy...all is good now...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:32 pm
by TheMadMagician
thEthIEf wrote:well, if we can get Carter for cheap, we'd have to jump on it...but, Orlando is left with 1 "PG" after this...so....
Pat Garrity will be gone
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:42 pm
by magicman123
i dont think i could handle 5+ years of vince carter..
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:07 pm
by Dub_Sax
Magic Fans would WE want accept a VC/Collins for Rashard Lewis/Redick trade?
I say yes! What say you all??
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:10 pm
by MagicMadness
Dub_Sax wrote:Magic Fans would WE want accept a VC/Collins for Rashard Lewis/Redick trade?
I say yes! What say you all??
No to that. I want Lewis over Carter in this situation, considering we're 11 games over .500 with Lewis, while the Nets have been struggling mightily with an older Carter.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:11 pm
by theTHIEF
hell no...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:13 pm
by LBPTarHeel27
Nets add Marcus Williams, Magic add future lotto protected 1st
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:18 pm
by NEM
and this would work perfectly with the shots that he takes...
carter: 27
hedo: 10
lewis: 9
howard: 4
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:26 pm
by CourtsideTV
we'd have 1 to many 'go to guys'
hedo, shard, lcarer.. i dont see that working with dwight..
too many egos..i know hedo and shard and carter dont really care about being the man...but still...to many good players on a team cant be good.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:41 pm
by spinedoc
CourtsideTV wrote:we'd have 1 to many 'go to guys'
hedo, shard, lcarer.. i dont see that working with dwight..
too many egos..i know hedo and shard and carter dont really care about being the man...but still...to many good players on a team cant be good.
As he says with a Celtic Avatar and Sig.....
Of course you do something like this for Carter. We definitely need another pg as mentioned already though. They would have to include Marcus in the deal. Carter has never played with a decent big man his entire career. I believe it would work out great with him here given his relationship with Dwight. There is no interest out there at all for him, and getting him without including Hedo would be a great deal for us. An extra playoff series every year would easily pay his salary and then some, and thats exactly what we would be getting from this at the minimum.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:51 am
by EasternMagic
dont want carter
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:20 am
by 1eyedjake
For this price? Yes, sure, do it.
Of course a follow up trade of Bogans/Evans for Andre Miller or a power forward would be great if we went down this path.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:40 am
by orl_aus
This trade is a steal for Orlando! Vince Carter still has game left! The problem at Jersey is that he isn't motivated to win! I dont know whether you blame vince for that or coach frank and the organisation but i believe if you put him in a new situation with a new look, where he actually is motivated to play and to win and i can only see him getting back to his all star best! The question is do you want to use up all that expiring money? Highly unlikely this would ever happen...
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:53 am
by Force9024
If we made the trade adding Armstrong in the trade, I would consider it. The reason this trade shouldn't be made if Armstrong isn't included is 1. it makes no sense for us as we'd have to find a productive player in the limited pool of FA PG's and 2. the Net's would have no use for Armstrong with Arroyo, Dooling, and Marcus Williams. I believe we'd have to trade a 1st Round Pick in order to get New Jersey to bite.
Arroyo, Dooling, Garrity, Vasquez and a 1st for Carter and Armstrong. Yeah sign me up.
Nelson/Armstrong
Carter/Bogans
Hedo/Evans
Lewis/Cook/Augustine
Howard/Foyle
We'd still have a decent bench. The question is do the Magic want that much salary til about 2010/11 or so.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:56 am
by karizma87
that guy is a cancer...keep him AWAAAAAY
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:01 am
by theTHIEF
listen, you can say what you want about Carter, but if we got 2-3 good seasons out of him, even like the one he's having now we'd be very well off...we RARELY ever have a good 2 on this team...and Carter isnt as selfish today as he has been in the past...
Nelson
Carter
Hedo
Shard
Dwight
is a hell of a lot better than bout 10 or so teams in the east...in fact, it's probably a better team than the Celts...if we have sufficient help at the PG with a veteran and a 3rd stringer, as well as Mo Evans/Cook/Bogans and Battie, we'd be sitting very pretty in the playoffs...VC gets things done when he's motivated and this would be his strongest team to date...he's never had a Dwight Howard...
so, at the price we'd have to do it...and just try and get us some more help in the off season via MLE and maybe another small trade...
but its not happening so...no worries...