Listening to Chad ford earlier todaya nd he made a couple of good points about the Magic. First he says that we have $14 million in expirings and we probably would have been better partners in the Gasol trade. He thinks this team could solidify ourselves as the east's #3 if we strengthen our front line. Teh Grizzlies GM said that he went to the Lakers trade because they had the biggest expiring (Kwame's $9 million which we could have beat) and the fact that most other teams were scared of their financial situations (only the Lakers were willing to go over the tax to get Pau Gasol). Also they really wanted Marc Gasol in return since they can keep him overseas until he is ready (we could have gave them Fran), not Crittendon since they already have two young point guards, and he says that they won't be keeping all three.
Then he says that since we missed that we should look into calling Utah for Andrei. The only issue is that he says we love Hedo and the Jazz would definitely want him in the exchange. Kirelinko can play the 4 effectively and he is like a white year old Josh Smith, filling five categories. I think that if we can pull off that trade, move Rashard to the 3 and let AK47 run around the court blocking shots and wreaking havoc, our defense would move up to steller. Also, putting another defender like him on the floor covers for weak defensive guards like Jameer and JJ. Would it be worth it to look at this trade at all? I know some of you will think that Kirelinko is a 3, but he is out of place at the 3 spot. He dribbles around his head, and can't shoot all that we. He needs to be close to the basket. Plus, putting him at 4 lets us match up with Jamison, Wallace, Smith, and Garnett since he can guard pretty much anyone that isn't one of the larger centers (Yao, Bynum, jefferson, Dwight). i think this is a good move, and I would pull the trigger if I was sure that Rashard woudl thrive in a different role. if not this deal, then maybe we give the Clippers a call since they want to get rid of Maggette and Cassel, both of whom could help us.
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I remember calling on this trade during the offseason. (Hedo for AK)
Now I'm not so sure I'd do it... I'm so in love with Hedo (no homo) that it'd take a superstar for me to see him go without being devastated.
But yeah, find a way to get AK without giving Hedo and I'd prove men could also have multiple orgasms.
Now I'm not so sure I'd do it... I'm so in love with Hedo (no homo) that it'd take a superstar for me to see him go without being devastated.
But yeah, find a way to get AK without giving Hedo and I'd prove men could also have multiple orgasms.
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Utah doesn't really need defense as bad as you might think. Their guards are solid defensively and AK isn't guarding the post there so he isn't being used to his full potential. What they really wanty is a true 3 who can help spread the floor for Boozer and Williams. This is why they flirted with getting Richard Jefferson.
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Well, the thing is that some fans are fine with winning 50 games and losing in the second round and some fans are more concerned with winning it all. In the west, if you can't compete for a title, you might as well fold and try again next year. This is why the team with the best record just made a huge move. The Suns look as good as they ever have, but they weren't afraid to go for the extra edge by shaking things up and giving away their best defender. people say that teh Suns need defense as well, so why wouldn't Utah be similarly inclined to make a move if we offered something they like? As for the people who claim Otis loves Hedo too much, face it, GM's have to protect their jobs. If he thinks that trading a hot commodity for a better chance at the finals is possible, he does it every time. Just last week Riley was campaigning for Shaq to be an All Star. You have to buy low and sell high to be a good GM in this league.
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mattyBoi wrote:The ONLY way i trade hedo for AK47 is if we can do something like
Hedo
Garrity
Arroyo
Bogans
for
AK47
Milsap
jason hart/morris almond
If we added AK and Milsap, we'd have 4 PFs on roster if you include Battie. That hardly seems necessary. Not to mention, if the Jazz lost AK, they'd really want to keep Milsap.
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SoCAL24 wrote:Sorry but isn't AK more valuable than Hedo? if we're talking statistics Hedo may have higher points but I'd take AK's defense and basketball IQ any day. And AK was DPOY. )
he may be more valuable to Utah than to anyone else, same with Hedo...but Hedo definitely has better IQ of the game than AK IMO...Hedo is way up there actually...
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mattyBoi wrote:It would work out
U'd have
Nelson/Dooling/Almond
Evans/Redick
Rashard/AK47
AK47/Milsap/Cook
Howard/Foyle
This is now last years team. Now Dwight is getting double teamed and Rashard is being played tight to the 3 point line. Teams would not have to worry about a 3rd scorer and they would dare the other 3 guys to beat them from outside. This is a clear downgrade. We need a 6th man type backup PF who is rugged. Like a Haslem, a guy we can get without giving up a starter.
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KingRobb02 wrote:Well, the thing is that some fans are fine with winning 50 games and losing in the second round and some fans are more concerned with winning it all. In the west, if you can't compete for a title, you might as well fold and try again next year. This is why the team with the best record just made a huge move. The Suns look as good as they ever have, but they weren't afraid to go for the extra edge by shaking things up and giving away their best defender. people say that teh Suns need defense as well, so why wouldn't Utah be similarly inclined to make a move if we offered something they like? As for the people who claim Otis loves Hedo too much, face it, GM's have to protect their jobs. If he thinks that trading a hot commodity for a better chance at the finals is possible, he does it every time. Just last week Riley was campaigning for Shaq to be an All Star. You have to buy low and sell high to be a good GM in this league.
Remind me how Kirilenko performed in the Playoffs last year.
Also, the Phoenix comparison is not a good analogy.
I think this is one of those deals where both teams pass.
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Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
This is now last years team. Now Dwight is getting double teamed and Rashard is being played tight to the 3 point line. Teams would not have to worry about a 3rd scorer and they would dare the other 3 guys to beat them from outside. This is a clear downgrade. We need a 6th man type backup PF who is rugged. Like a Haslem, a guy we can get without giving up a starter.
This is the first, and only year you will see rashard at the 4 so the things you mentioned are bound to happen.
I also think of a deal like this was to go down (highly unlikely) you would see us go after a scorer with the MLE like Maggette