Trade Deadline Guide

KingRobb02 · Post #1 » by **KingRobb02** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:02 pm

Chad Ford (Insider) gives us a sneak preview of what could be happening at the deadline. For each team that looks to be active he gives needs and tells who might be available. For the Magic he says that right now no one sees us challenging the Pistons and Celtics, and that we need to get a power forward. He then says that we have similar players in Lewis and Turk and suggests that we go after Andrei Kirilenko. Before you guys start bashing ESPN's credentials, one thing that is certain is that Turk's trade value will never be higher than it is right now so we might as well get something good before we let him walk in 2 year because he wants Rashard Lewis type money.

mhectorgato · Post #2 » by **mhectorgato** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:08 pm

1. it's an insider article so I can't see it
2. we wouldn't bash ESPN's credentials, just Chad Fraud's

KingRobb02 · Post #3 » by **KingRobb02** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:17 pm

mhectorgato wrote:1. it's an insider article so I can't see it
2. we wouldn't bash ESPN's credentials, just Chad Fraud's

Sorry, but I'm not positive that it is insider unless you have verified for yourself. I signed up for a year the magazine for like $5 back in 2005 and it came with insider access and for some reason I still have access to both. Since all of Chad Ford's stuff says Insider on it, I wasn;t sure if this was an actual insider article, or just one that forces you to sign in before you can see the content. I guess, if anyone has any questions about it, I can give a better summary about other teams a little bit later in the afternoon.

dariusl7 · Post #4 » by **dariusl7** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:18 pm

Thanks man.
I agree about Hedo's value. Unfortunetely there is no player/s available on the market that would justify trading him.

mhectorgato · Post #5 » by **mhectorgato** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:22 pm

dariusl7 wrote:Thanks man.
I agree about Hedo's value. Unfortunetely there is no player/s available on the market that would justify trading him.

If Artest would sign an extension ... that would be one to seriously consider.

KingRobb02 · Post #6 » by **KingRobb02** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:38 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
If Artest would sign an extension ... that would be one to seriously consider.

Apparently the word is that the Spurs are looking at getting him to replace the aging Bruce Bowen. It would make sense to make that move if you are the Spurs since Ima Udoka is taking all of Bowen's crunch time minutes. the problem I have with hime coming to Orlando is that at this stage in his career he seems more focused on creating his scoring opportunities than defense. i'm certain that would change in the right environment, so it's worth the risk. I am sure glad we don't ever have to worry about Dwight acting like that...

MagicFan3 · Post #7 » by **MagicFan3** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:52 pm

Does it say anything credible about the VC to Orlando rumor?

KingRobb02 · Post #8 » by **KingRobb02** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:00 pm

MagicFan3 wrote:Does it say anything credible about the VC to Orlando rumor?

No, the only takers for Vince Carter and his huge contract seem to be the Knicks, and that is only if they can move either Curry or Randolph first. The Pacers don't seem thrilled about the J. Oneal for Carter swap anymore.

MagicFan149 · Post #9 » by **MagicFan149** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:40 pm

would you guys really do a ak47 for turk and expirings??.... wow that would take so major marbles bye otis to pull this off... it would be interesting to see rashard take more responsibility on offense.

dariusl7 · Post #10 » by **dariusl7** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:51 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If Artest would sign an extension ... that would be one to seriously consider.

Agreed.

NEM · Post #11 » by **NEM** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:21 pm

mhectorgato wrote:1. it's an insider article so I can't see it
2. we wouldn't bash ESPN's credentials, just Chad Fraud's

thepritz · Post #12 » by **thepritz** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:45 pm

heres what Ford said.

Orlando Magic

They spent a fortune on Rashard Lewis this summer, and they're having a good season. But no one believes Orlando is a serious threat to Boston or Detroit.

That could change if the Magic could land a power forward. They have two similar players in Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu, plus roughly $13 million in expiring contracts and J.J. Redick also available if the right deal comes along.

Who would make sense for Orlando? Andrei Kirilenko for Turkoglu and expiring contracts might work for both the Magic and the Jazz.

Hope Otis doesnt do that. I dont want to get rid of Hedo at all much less for a worse player. If Hedo goes we better get something that will propel us to the championship this year or next.

MagicFan3 · Post #13 » by **MagicFan3** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:46 pm

@ Kirilenko for Hedo, that's disgusting.

knappy · Post #14 » by **knappy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:56 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:Chad Ford (Insider) gives us a sneak preview of what could be happening at the deadline. For each team that looks to be active he gives needs and tells who might be available. For the Magic he says that right now no one sees us challenging the Pistons and Celtics, and that we need to get a power forward. He then says that we have similar players in Lewis and Turk and suggests that we go after Andrei Kirilenko. Before you guys start bashing ESPN's credentials, one thing that is certain is that Turk's trade value will never be higher than it is right now so we might as well get something good before we let him walk in 2 year because he wants Rashard Lewis type money.

As much as I like Turk - I certainly agree that he is having a career year and we can maximize his trade value - I am ok with keeping him, but if we could make a good trade I would go for it. Give me Artest.

I am ok with us keeping Turk, but we do need a PF - we have to be able to get something for JJ, and/or a combination of expirings - Arroyo & Garrity in particular and if necessary we could move (Bogans - not a big salary though, Evans, but he might be worth trying to keep, but he is moveable, Dooling - I like him as a backup though, but moveable, Augustine - not a whole lot of salary relief and then Hedo - expendable for a quality player - in particular a big. Hedo and JJ should be able to get you a very good player with Arroyo thrown in.

I would think that if we could keep Turk we may want to do that though, but if a very good player were available I would consider it, but having him stay is ok as well. Sounds like the most realistic trade partner at the moment is Seatlle - with Wilcox - he would be serviceable this year and could give us some strength and maybe Battie could help as well. I'd be all for Artest as well - I'd love to see us get Artest and a strong PF that is good.

thepritz · Post #15 » by **thepritz** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:01 pm

In that case would Artest play SG? I think so..

Jameer
Artest
Lewis
Wilcox(strong PF)
Dwight

is a nasty lineup.. esp in the east...

knappy · Post #16 » by **knappy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:04 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If Artest would sign an extension ... that would be one to seriously consider.

agreed - I would trade Hedo for Artest, but they may want more or another team may offer more - straight up I'd do it.

I would hate to see Hedo go, but I would love to see some defense. I have to admit I don't know really how bad Artest's attitude is - I think almost any player could fit in here with the talent and with Stan at the helm - SVG is a darn good coach.

knappy · Post #17 » by **knappy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:10 pm

thepritz wrote:In that case would Artest play SG? I think so..

Jameer
Artest
Lewis
Wilcox(strong PF)
Dwight

is a nasty lineup.. esp in the east...

I think it makes us a lot stronger on defense for sure and I don't think it hurts us much on offense. We would still have
Dooling, Evans, Cook & Foyle & maybe JJ off the bench - assuming Turk, Arroyo and Garrity would be gone. I'd go for that, but I'd like Artest to sign an extension as part of the trade.

There maybe better offers for Artest. Hedo would be a legitimate offer and if an expiring or JJ were needed I'd consider that.

It would really shake up the lineup a lot. It could also be smart just to go after Wilcox by giving up expiring contracts and keeping Hedo.

magicman123 · Post #18 » by **magicman123** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:24 pm

im going with, that we will let the $13mill expire

EasternMagic · Post #19 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:07 pm

I hope otis doesnt do that either. what a lot of people dont see is that we force teams to play different because we use hedo and shard as starters. they have to make adjustments. it allows us to make some teams a little vulnerable. but then their are teams who have no problem with it and that is were we need to get a SOLID of the bench powerforward (Charlie Villanueva) and still hold on to both shard and Hedo

orl1724 · Post #20 » by **orl1724** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:45 am

MagicFan149 wrote:would you guys really do a ak47 for turk and expirings??.... wow that would take so major marbles bye otis to pull this off... it would be interesting to see rashard take more responsibility on offense.

Hellz yea back in the day when AK use to play PF he was a baller.

Dwight
AK
Lewis
MO
Meer

That seems like a pretty good line up, also we would improve defensively A LOT!. If Otis was able to pull this off I would SKEET! LOL