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Post#1 » by locomagicfan » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:54 am

http://forums.floridatoday.com/viewtopi ... 20807c38ad

Maybe this will answer a few questions for us all... This board is going a bit over the deep-end.

HAVE SOME FAITH PEOPLE. The morale on this board is disgusting at times.
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Post#2 » by magicfan4life05 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:58 am

Message-board posters were howling and ranting as Thursday
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
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Post#3 » by magicfan4life05 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:59 am

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Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
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Re: FL Today: OTIS comments on not trading expiring... 

Post#4 » by zuppafly » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:04 am

locomagicfan wrote:http://forums.floridatoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=72475&sid=d2b4cb7b30e5264c42276e20807c38ad

Maybe this will answer a few questions for us all... This board is going a bit over the deep-end.

HAVE SOME FAITH PEOPLE. The morale on this board is disgusting at times.


``I have to keep some kind of flexibility for the franchise,
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Post#5 » by MagicFan3 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:09 am

Guys, we need that cap room so we can make a big move over the summer!

What's that? We have no cap space? We signed who for $118 million?

...son of a bitch.
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Post#6 » by locomagicfan » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:10 am

I agree with the contradiction in "flexibility" and "rashard lewis" lol

But at least we know he is looking towards the summer. This team has the right pieces, it just needs some role players.

Why go out and get a PF when there is a TON in the draft, we have the MLE and Battie (and possibly Fran) come next season!

I hope our team looks like this next year:

Dwight/Battie/Gortat
Lewis/Fran/Cook
Hedo/Evans
Courtney Lee or Childress/Redick
Nelson/Dooling/Free agent
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Post#7 » by richboy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:18 am

What is Otis resume as a GM and in front office or as a player. Seriously for a guy that I can't think of any winning situations he has really been apart.

I think he should be upfront and say if I made a move I wouldn't have used the MLE. Thats the financial situation now.
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Post#8 » by maginno » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:24 am

MagicFan3 wrote:Guys, we need that cap room so we can make a big move over the summer!

What's that? We have no cap space? We signed who for $118 million?

...son of a bitch.


:rofl:


After reading that I can't for the life of me figure out what question the OP thinks is answered in this article. Otis is just blowing hot air. No one wanted the team busted up. Was the team busted up by adding cook. We just wanted a power forward and its a joke to talk about the off season with only an MLE.

Seems to me he's confessing openly that he didn't try to see everything that was out there. If he thinks the boards are whining now just wait if we go though a little slump and end up facing a strong team in the first round. IF we exit this year in the first round calls for his replacement will make the whining now seem like a whisper.

Online fans helped to show Hill to the door and we can do it with a GM too.
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Post#9 » by TooNice00 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:24 am

i agree with otis. we need to be conservative with money. you just don't keep adding talent and money or you end up like the knicks. sometimes you need to just let contracts expire if nothing is worthwhile is available. don't make trades out of despiration. and just because he signed rashard doesn't mean you keep spending. you don't keep trading away draft picks either, its just dumb. this team just needs an upgrade at the 4 or 5 spot and some type of upgrade in the backcourt. people act like we need a complete overhaul of the roster and missed our chance to ever address these needs.
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Post#10 » by maginno » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:31 am

TooNice00 wrote: you don't keep trading away draft picks either, its just dumb.


You mean like with Fran, Ariza and Darko. Whats dumb is not having a consistency with salary from the beginning of being a GM. You drop 118 million on one guy and then say okay now we have to go without a PF.

Otis would make a fine politician. run up the deficit and then claim you have to cut education because its fiscally responsible.
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Post#11 » by zuppafly » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:35 am

TooNice00 wrote:i agree with otis. we need to be conservative with money. you just don't keep adding talent and money or you end up like the knicks. sometimes you need to just let contracts expire if nothing is worthwhile is available. don't make trades out of despiration. and just because he signed rashard doesn't mean you keep spending. you don't keep trading away draft picks either, its just dumb. this team just needs an upgrade at the 4 or 5 spot and some type of upgrade in the backcourt. people act like we need a complete overhaul of the roster

You just fail to understand that we just passed a hell of a chance to use our assets in order to upgrade one of those spots. Nobody here (well, almost nobody) was asking for a blockbuster, nobody was asking to add a 10 millions contract, everyone was asking to make a move in order to add depth and upgrade at least one position (specially the PF one).

And excuse me, but wasn't Otis the one saying in the press conference where Rashard was introduced that his signing was the sign that this franchise was commited to win and it was willing to pay the price for it? I clearly remember that it was one of his remarks. And now he can't trade a low draft pick, a SG that can't get out of the bench and a couple of millions in expirings to acquire a clear and obviously needed upgrade in Thomas or Wilcox? He admitted the talks and I admit that Presti might have handed Thomas to the Spurs before even thinking on accepting a Magic deal, but Denton just said that Wilcox was talked about and his price was too high. Too high? Wilcox has a 6.750 millions contract that ends next year. Arroyo + Garrity and our first pick would work. JJ+Garrity and our first would work. Seattle wasn't obviously asking Hedo in return. Any of those deals would have improved us vastly and Wilcox contract would not hurt us in the long term as it ends next year.

And yes, I'm speculating on those deals, but anyone thinking that Seattly would have asked much more than that is simply trying to find a way to excuse Otis in something that has simply no excuse for.
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Post#12 » by maginno » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:37 am

locomagicfan wrote:
I hope our team looks like this next year:

Dwight/Battie/Gortat
Lewis/Fran/Cook
Hedo/Evans
Courtney Lee or Childress/Redick
Nelson/Dooling/Free agent


So you HOPE that Rashard is our starting power forward next year?

Okaaaay. Happy hour at the Internet cafe right? :banghead:
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Post#13 » by zuppafly » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:39 am

For once I also agree with maginno. The world mus be near its end :lol:
Rashard can't be our main PF forever.
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Post#14 » by locomagicfan » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:43 am

maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



So you HOPE that Rashard is our starting power forward next year?

Okaaaay. Happy hour at the Internet cafe right? :banghead:


your right... 34-22 is terrible... what was i thinking!?
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Post#15 » by locomagicfan » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:44 am

Even if Battie came back.. the chances are he wouldnt start.
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Post#16 » by D12Howard » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:48 am

[quote="locomagicfan"]Even if Battie came back.. the chances are he wouldnt start.[/quote]


Lewis CANNOT be our starting 4... Just can't happen much longer. We need a natural PF to start there and move Hedo to the bench..

Why is Arroyo still on this team after today? some things I will never understand.
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Post#17 » by TooNice00 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:48 am

zuppafly wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


You just fail to understand that we just passed a hell of a chance to use our assets in order to upgrade one of those spots. Nobody here (well, almost nobody) was asking for a blockbuster, nobody was asking to add a 10 millions contract, everyone was asking to make a move in order to add depth and upgrade at least one position (specially the PF one).
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wilcox makes 7 million, haslem 6 million, and brad miller makes 10 million. and none of them is going to make a difference on whether we are in contention this year or not. and like i said you don't keep giving away draft picks. its not a good idea. it eliminates your chance to aquire young talent and limits your future. maybe you don't have faith in our drafting ability but whatever. i look at a team like houston who has basically created a powerforward rotation in landry, scola, and hayes out of nothing. this team will go as far as howard takes them. i don't think howard is ready to take this team to a championship yet. hopefully i am wrong and he is a best in the playoffs.
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Post#18 » by zuppafly » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:54 am

Miller's contract is 10 million but he's a big time player who can make an instant impact in any team. While I understand that it had to be a well studied chance I believe he'd be huge for us now and in the next few years.
Wilcox makes 6.5 millions, only a little more than the MLE. Getting him for expirings would allow us to use the MLE to fill another hole with a player that could be an upgrade to the SG position (or PG, although I think that's harder to acquire).

Haslem had the problem of being in Miami and I do trust the reports that Miami didn't want to help us on that one, so I don't complain about him.

And yes, I have absolutely 0 faith on our drafting ability if the pick isn't the number one ping pong ball.
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Post#19 » by EasternMagic » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:59 am

i agree with alot in that article, and for magicfan4life when you state the francis for ariza thing that is a whoooolllle nother level, we sucked and we were rebuilding. otis directly stated that in this article saying that this isnt a rebuilding team its a GOOD team. im really sick of seeing this hate threads get over it
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Post#20 » by TooNice00 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:11 am

zuppafly wrote:Miller's contract is 10 million but he's a big time player who can make an instant impact in any team. While I understand that it had to be a well studied chance I believe he'd be huge for us now and in the next few years.
Wilcox makes 6.5 millions, only a little more than the MLE. Getting him for expirings would allow us to use the MLE to fill another hole with a player that could be an upgrade to the SG position (or PG, although I think that's harder to acquire).

Haslem had the problem of being in Miami and I do trust the reports that Miami didn't want to help us on that one, so I don't complain about him.

And yes, I have absolutely 0 faith on our drafting ability if the pick isn't the number one ping pong ball.


got to look at things from a realistic standpoint. you don't keep adding MLE level talent. we would have 7 players making over 6 million with someone like haslem or wilcox. you got to have a limit. money is basketball. and someone like wilcox or haslem, although helpful, isn't the answer to anything but people being sucked into the idea we are contenders with wilcox, miller, or haslem.

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