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Thank the Lord Otis traded Ariza!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:32 pm
by BassMaster
Ariza and his broken foot is not healing very fast and now HoopsWorld is reporting that the Lakers most likely will not see him until the end of the season if that.
Last year Ariza was the Magic's problem with his injured leg this year he is that Lakers problem.
The Magic got the better end of that deal with a healthy Evans and Cook.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=7814

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:32 pm
by locomagicfan
You my friend have a point... Well that is you and the 40 others that posted a near identical thread.

Nonetheless, welcome to the board.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:07 pm
by Edrock
Semi-OT: If you're put on hold when you call the Magic (407.89.MAGIC) there's an Ariza highlight still on the wait message... It's a real shame about Ariza & his injury woes... I still hope he can bounce back and all the players involved are in better playing situations because of the trade. Truly a win-win trade IMO.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:41 pm
by Cigamodnalro
Let's resign him in the off-season to vet min ;)

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:56 pm
by drsd
But let us recall that when this trade was made, fans and the media blasted GM Smith.

Very, very few people found the upside to this trade.

Recall that the trade waiver was used for Evans, so Ariza was actually traded for Cook.

Lakers' fans were at the time of this trade VERY low on Cook's play.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:38 pm
by Big A All Day
drsd wrote:But let us recall that when this trade was made, fans and the media blasted GM Smith.

Very, very few people found the upside to this trade.

Recall that the trade waiver was used for Evans, so Ariza was actually traded for Cook.

Lakers' fans were at the time of this trade VERY low on Cook's play.
Very True, ESPN and all the websites and ALOT OF PEOPLE ON HERE said we were robbed, Now i see most have changed there tune. I was just happy when cook came in and i didnt have 2 see garrity in the game anymore, That made it a win for me from day 1

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:41 pm
by MagicMadness
Can somebody dig up the original trade thread and post a link to it?

I just want to read through it again. A mod can even lock it if they want.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:47 pm
by Shishnizzle
Where are you? Ariza and his chronic ankle and foot problems.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:02 pm
by happypedro12
Yea, this is just another smart move by otis in hindsight. i didn't like the trade either, but maybe Ariza just has too many injury problems. Still i feel bad like we betrayed him so he's in so much disaray that he broke his foot. I still want him on my team lol, he's on my franchise in 2K

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:05 pm
by magicfan4life05
found this

"The Magic wanted another shooter to stretch the defense, so it took on the Lakers' Brian Cook, no fan of Phil Jackson, and gave up Trevor Ariza, who, despite being only 22, is a physical wreck waiting to happen. The whispers out of Orlando are that the ex-Knick has structural foot problems that will eventually catch up with him."


http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=733072

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:05 pm
by magicfan4life05
and heres the official trade thread

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=731563

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:18 pm
by maginno
Oh NO! Otis screwed up big time. He should have traded Battie. who WILL be out for the entire regular and post season. Obviously He will have no use when he returns just as Ariza won't who should be back for the post season.

Logic alert! Logic alert! Danger Will Robinson. Danger!

If a player gets injured and is scheduled to return healthy this post-season it makes him less valuable than a player who won't.

You guys never cease to crack me up Wade should have been traded because he's injured now. Arenas should be traded because he is injured now. A player getting injured for a few months means we won a trade for years to come.

:bowdown: Clearly your logic is superior.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:40 pm
by mhectorgato
maginno wrote:Oh NO! Otis screwed up big time. He should have traded Battie. who WILL be out for the entire regular and post season. Obviously He will have no use when he returns just as Ariza won't who should be back for the post season.

Logic alert! Logic alert! Danger Will Robinson. Danger!

If a player gets injured and is scheduled to return healthy this post-season it makes him less valuable than a player who won't.

You guys never cease to crack me up Wade should have been traded because he's injured now. Arenas should be traded because he is injured now. A player getting injured for a few months means we won a trade for years to come.

:bowdown: Clearly your logic is superior.


Hey if we could get a quality starting player for Tony in return, then that should be something that we should have looked into.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:10 pm
by Shishnizzle
It was only a matter of time before the great debater showed up. Ariza and his entire career chronic ankle and foot problems.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:12 pm
by TheRevTy
Maginno, I'm curious, do you consider yourself a fan of the Magic? It would be so depressing for me if I was a fan of a team, but constantly focused on the downsides of the organization. While I agree with you that the Magic have made mistakes, most people use sports as an escape from stress. It would seem that your following of this team only causes you grief. Unless you are really excited about the Magic, but choose to only play devil's advocate here on the boards.

This isn't an attempt at a dig or burn or insult or whatever you want to call it, I am just curious.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:24 pm
by Catledge
Is there any reason to believe that anybody wants Battie?

Obviously, if Ariza comes back next year and blows up like a lot of people thought he might, it's still a bad trade for us, but that is looking less and less likely.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:27 pm
by Shishnizzle
I don't think Cougar knew what he was starting when he started this thread.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:33 pm
by maginno
TheRevTy wrote:Maginno, I'm curious, do you consider yourself a fan of the Magic? It would be so depressing for me if I was a fan of a team, but constantly focused on the downsides of the organization.


Perhaps you're too easily depressed?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:36 pm
by happypedro12
Oh NO! Otis screwed up big time. He should have traded Battie. who WILL be out for the entire regular and post season. Obviously He will have no use when he returns just as Ariza won't who should be back for the post season.

Logic alert! Logic alert! Danger Will Robinson. Danger!

If a player gets injured and is scheduled to return healthy this post-season it makes him less valuable than a player who won't.

You guys never cease to crack me up Wade should have been traded because he's injured now. Arenas should be traded because he is injured now. A player getting injured for a few months means we won a trade for years to come.

Clearly your logic is superior.



I don't get your argument. you think we should not have traded Ariza and instead traded Battie?? why? :crazy: you're arguing that it is foolish to trade a player who is injured right now instead of waiting for him to get healthy for years to come, correct? two things to that. 1. Wade and Arenas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ariza, they are much more integral to their teams success than Ariza was. 2. Ariza has a history of injury, plus he doesn't fit into our game plan. He has no offensive capabilities and plays decent defense. As far as Battie goes, we need all the big-bodies we can spare, it would be foolish to trade him for some shooter, which we have plenty of. I don't agree with your argument man, don't see the logic really.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:38 pm
by maginno
mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Hey if we could get a quality starting player for Tony in return, then that should be something that we should have looked into.


at the 2 guard considering our guards? - starting isn't that big of a deal. care to comment on how a player being injured for a few months means you won the trade for years to come? eh. Of course not.