The disrespect for the Magic is getting outrageous!

Idunkonyou2 · Post #1 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:29 pm

I'm watching the LA/Houston game and they were talking about the east. They mention the Celtics and Pistons about being the true contenders which is fine, but then they skip the Magic, go straight to the Cavs, then Van Gundy talks down the Magic and then says even the Wizards are going to be deadly if Arenas comes back. :roll:

More bulletin board material for the Magic. Now apparently the Wizards are even better than us. :nonono:

Post #2 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:33 pm

lol, you'd think at least JVG would give his bro's team some credit when it's due but I guess not.

Post #3 » by **SOUL** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:34 pm

Damn.. we should make a topic on the gen board about this.

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #4 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:34 pm

Thats fine. We'll prove 'em wrong in the playoffs.

Post #5 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 pm

they just had JVG and Mark Jackson's top 5 MVP candidates, and neither had Dwight (In fact JVG didn't have a 5th). Mark asked why JVG didn't have Lebron on there and he said because the Cavs are 4th he's automatically down his list. JVG then asked Mark why Dwight's not on his list with Lebron then, and Mark asked if he was kidding and JVG said he was.

I'm pretty convinced though that JVG, while a good coach, doesn't know what he's talking about these days. He has Paul #1 for his MVP, and T-Mac #2, while Paul I can see, he then said he might decide to move T-Mac up to #1 if they get the #1 seed in the West. I mean don't get me wrong, T-Mac is great and is having a good season, but he's not the MVP.

theTHIEF · Post #6 » by **theTHIEF** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:44 pm

JVG has been trashing his Brother's team all season...

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #7 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:47 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:they just had JVG and Mark Jackson's top 5 MVP candidates, and neither had Dwight (In fact JVG didn't have a 5th). Mark asked why JVG didn't have Lebron on there and he said because the Cavs are 4th he's automatically down his list. JVG then asked Mark why Dwight's not on his list with Lebron then, and Mark asked if he was kidding and JVG said he was.

I'm pretty convinced though that JVG, while a good coach, doesn't know what he's talking about these days. He has Paul #1 for his MVP, and T-Mac #2, while Paul I can see, he then said he might decide to move T-Mac up to #1 if they get the #1 seed in the West. I mean don't get me wrong, T-Mac is great and is having a good season, but he's not the MVP.

I saw that. They are a bunch of bandwagon folks..... imo, MVP is 1. Lebron 2. Kobe 3. Paul 4. Garnett.....Dwight is close but nowhere near the race.

Lebron got a taste of the playoffs and developed a new found determination that was lacking before. I think if we can go deep into the playoff and Dwight tastes success, he is going to be wanting more.... I can't wait to see Dwight running on all cylinders

Post #8 » by **SOUL** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:47 pm

I dont get it either.. if Yao was playing and they had a 20 win streak would Yao be #2?

Optimus_Steel · Post #9 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:02 pm

Its weird, Jeff kinda sounds jealous of his brother.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #10 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:04 pm

I'm not sure how Howard is no where close in the race, especially if his team gets mid 50+ wins.

huge4 · Post #11 » by **huge4** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:16 pm

We're currently six games up on Cleveland. Maybe if we get 10 games up people will stop automatically penciling them in as the #3 team in the East, though I doubt it.

I will say one thing the Cavs have up on us come playoff time, and that is a player whose a$$ the officials kiss. It's a huge weapon in the playoffs when you can commit an offensive foul and get to the stripe whenever you want.

zuppafly · Post #12 » by **zuppafly** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:16 pm

Jeff didn't say the Wizards were contenders. He said that if Arenas is healthy they'll be a dangerous team to face. How is that wrong?

He also said he believes the Cavs have what it takes to win he East because they have LeBron. That doesn't mean he thinks they're a better team than Orlando, it means that in crunch time LeBron can put a team on his back in a way Dwight can not. And that, as much as we don't like th hear it, it's true.

Those are opinions. I respect Jeff's opinions and I don't think they are far from the truth. Does that mean I don't believe we can win it in the East facing he Cavs, Boston or the Pistons? No, it's a 7 games series, everything can happen.

Stop crying about the "lack of respect". What have the Magic won to earn that post-season respect? Nothing. Until we prove we can win it we're simply a longshot.

Post #13 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:26 pm

zuppafly wrote:Jeff didn't say the Wizards were contenders. He said that if Arenas is healthy they'll be a dangerous team to face. How is that wrong?

He also said he believes the Cavs have what it takes to win he East because they have LeBron. That doesn't mean he thinks they're a better team than Orlando, it means that in crunch time LeBron can put a team on his back in a way Dwight can not. And that, as much as we don't like th hear it, it's true.

Those are opinions. I respect Jeff's opinions and I don't think they are far from the truth. Does that mean I don't believe we can win it in the East facing he Cavs, Boston or the Pistons? No, it's a 7 games series, everything can happen.

Stop crying about the "lack of respect". What have the Magic won to earn that post-season respect? Nothing. Until we prove we can win it we're simply a longshot.

20 more games than we've lost. that's what the magic have won to earn that respect.

I don't think we're upset that Cleveland is mentioned. Most understand that Cleveland is a good team and Lebron makes them incredibly dangerous and can take them wherever he wants. But what we are upset about is that when analysts talk about the best teams in the East, they lump Cleveland into that group and leave Orlando out, despite Orlando having a significantly better record this year.

I agree that Orlando needs to do it in the post-season to get wide-spread respect. If the Magic make it to the ECF, next year they'll be looked at as a top team.

But I would still like to see analysts acknowledge the Magic's season, and not just wave it off as meaningless come playoff time. If it's meaningless, why play the games? Why not just start the playoffs in October and say screw the season.

The teams play for a reason, it's about time analysts start respecting that and acknowledging ALL teams for what they do, and not just the media darlings.

zuppafly · Post #14 » by **zuppafly** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:44 pm

But they do recognize the great season we're having. Didn't you hear when they started tlking about Jeff not wanting to watch his brother's team games? The first thing he mentioned was something like "I don't watch it because it's very emotional. They are having a brilliant season, but I still don't want to watch it."

What we are doing in the regular season is being recognized. The post season? Only when we prove we can win in there.

Post #15 » by **SS_MagicMark** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:22 pm

Clark had us getting upset in the first round by Davidson.

NEM · Post #16 » by **NEM** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:25 pm

maybe JVG is doing it on purpose to motivate our guys

MagicStarwipe · Post #17 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:11 am

Even the refs don't respect us. Seems we can't buy a foul lately. Hell... even Miami and Indiana get more respect then us from the officials. Dwight can just forget it. He could be the MVP and the refs would still screw him.

J-Mezzy · Post #18 » by **J-Mezzy** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:45 am

iT IS CLEAR, the magic wins are taken for granted and Dwight's numbers, which are better than both Garnett and Duncan, are ignored. If you were to tell me before the season, Duncan was going to average 22ppg and 14.5 rpg, along with 2.3 bpg and his team was going to win around 55 games, I would have said he'd had the MVP on lock, but Dwight just doesn't get the respect.
Tell me the last player to average 22 and 14 while shooting 60% and leading his team to over 50 wins?

It is as if we didn't matter. We are just "there". Not a team to be reckoned with and Dwight is just know for his superman performance.

If we are going to dismiss our guys because we have proven nothing in the playoffs, than dismiss Boston as well. What have they proven? 3 guys who've never won a title and came from lottery teams. Garnett made it out of the 1st round just once...So if the regular season doesn't matter, than they have proven nothing either. You can throw New Orleans in there as well.

I am no fool, I know Boston is great and deserves the respect, but I just don't like this lack of respect our team and superstar is getting.

Typhoon20 · Post #19 » by **Typhoon20** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:30 am

JVG playa hatin'cause his brotha might get a ring before him.

zuppafly · Post #20 » by **zuppafly** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:39 am

J-Mezzy wrote:iT IS CLEAR, the magic wins are taken for granted and Dwight's numbers, which are better than both Garnett and Duncan, are ignored. If you were to tell me before the season, Duncan was going to average 22ppg and 14.5 rpg, along with 2.3 bpg and his team was going to win around 55 games, I would have said he'd had the MVP on lock, but Dwight just doesn't get the respect.
Tell me the last player to average 22 and 14 while shooting 60% and leading his team to over 50 wins?

That's something I do agree. His numbers are more than worth an MVP recognition and all we hear and read is "can you imagine how good he can be?" like if he isn't already leading a team to a 20 win margin over .500.