Mark Stein's NBA 1st team...What a joke

mattyBoi · Post #1 » by **mattyBoi** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:47 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime ... -080405-06

Wow this just about does it for me...Im tired of this guy

How would Dwight do if he was in Phoenix...And if he hasnt played as well in the second half of the season...Why havent his numbers dropped off?

Optimus_Steel · Post #2 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:55 pm

Did he put Kobe in every position?

TooNice00 · Post #3 » by **TooNice00** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:59 pm

amare of dwight is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). even amare making the first team over duncan is just plain dumb.

JTSUCF · Post #4 » by **JTSUCF** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:01 pm

He did mention that he expects Dwight will be on most ballots as a first teamer. It doesn't excuse the fact that he is picking Amare because he is blowing up in the PF spot but was forced to play the Center spot before Shaq arrived. Not to mention that Dwight plays considerably better than Amare on defense and rebounds a lot better, which are key ingredients of a great center.

What is really amazing to me is there are only 4 players from the East that make his ballot compared to 11 from the West. The East is so devoid of talent when you compare it to the West. Sure the East has the likes of Dwight, Lebron, and KG. But when you go deeper, the West just has so much more talent than the East.

Post #5 » by **eyriq** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:01 pm

In all fairness, Amare is dominating offensively this year and has really kicked it up a notch since the Shaq trade. Both Duncan and Howard and leaps and bounds better defensively. It is a tough choice.

Post #6 » by **ORL** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:03 pm

Is it just me, or is the starting C on the Suns and the guy that plays at that position for more than 60% of the entire game someone other than Amare?? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

mattyBoi · Post #7 » by **mattyBoi** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:07 pm

Yeh he has but that should be a knock against him IMO...Yes hes playing better, but can you imagine Dwight and Shaq playing together with Nash tossing the passes around...Dwight would average 30 PPG

Also no Deron is a shame

I understand hes entitled to his opinions, but they are pretty bad, especially for a "top notch analyst from ESPN"

TooNice00 · Post #8 » by **TooNice00** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:15 pm

dwight seems to have such high standers. he was averaging 24/15 at the start of the season but now for some reason 21/14.5 is some massive drop off and is no longer good enough. I find it odd. But whatever if dwight plays well in the playoffs this year he will get his respect. also word out of orlando is hedo is "the geater source" of consistent play than dwight...haha yeah right..where did that come from?

happypedro12 · Post #9 » by **happypedro12** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:19 pm

my thing is that everyone keeps saying how Hedo is showing Dwight up as the more dominant player, but they don't realize that Hedo's success is just a product of Dwight and SVG's system. If you took Dwight out or put Hedo on a different team w/out a dominant big man, he wouldn't have nearly as good numbers. w/e, everyone can downplay 21 and 14 plus youngest rebounding champ ever like its no big deal, but we all know whats up. just more fuel for the fire.

mattyBoi · Post #10 » by **mattyBoi** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:22 pm

Hopefully Dwight has a 30-20 this afternoon to silence the hatersssss

Post #11 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:22 pm

Stein's an idiot. Yea Amare has played great since the all-star break, but he's been doing it at PF! Since Shaq got there he's mostly played PF, and he's been blowing it up there because his center is SHAQ! Shaq draws a lot of attention, so Amare is free to do as he will. And with a PG like Nash? Are you kidding me?

I think Amare's a great player, having a great year. But Stein is obviously hypnotized by all the Suns games he has on ESPN. Dwight's up there in the MVP race. Is Amare? no.

Post #12 » by **craig01** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:35 pm

That's BS.

Howard should be ahead of AS.

Post #13 » by **ORL** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:39 pm

LOL, "factor in whispers out of Orlando"...

That line alone should tell you exactly how much of Orlando he's actually seen.

dwight4pres08 · Post #14 » by **dwight4pres08** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:26 pm

im a big dwight fan buttttt looks like a pretty damn good first team to me..

thefranchise2k5 · Post #15 » by **thefranchise2k5** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:48 pm

This is exactly why I made the thread Will Dwight make the all nba 1st team because of the fact that Amare's been gettin a lot of love lately and deservedly so,

Typhoon20 · Post #16 » by **Typhoon20** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:06 pm

I love Dwight but he doesn't deserve to be in the 1st team.

NEM · Post #17 » by **NEM** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 9:44 pm

he doesn't pick these awards for a reason

Post #18 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 9:51 pm

Dwight's going to be the first player since Wilt to average 20ppg, 14rpg, and 60% shooting since Wilt Chamberlain. Yea, he doesn't deserve first team. Amare's 4 more ppg and 5 less rpg is much more impressive. :roll:

macdalejax · Post #19 » by **macdalejax** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 12:50 am

UCFJayBird wrote:Dwight's going to be the first player since Wilt to average 20ppg, 14rpg, and 60% shooting since Wilt Chamberlain. Yea, he doesn't deserve first team. Amare's 4 more ppg and 5 less rpg is much more impressive.

2nd that. I was just about to type something very similar until I read yours.

1eyedjake · Post #20 » by **1eyedjake** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 3:11 am

Yeah, there's no way in my mind that Dwight should be left off the 1st team ballot at center.
Rationalising that Stoudemire played center for the 1st part of the season while then arguing his merit on his play in the second half of the season is also problematic logic.