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Starting PG for Orlando:

Poll ended at Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:08 pm

Luke Ridnour
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14%
Jameer Nelson
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86%
 
Total votes: 22

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Post#1 » by MJallday59 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:08 pm

If you had to pick between the two. Who would your pick be and why?
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Post#2 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:11 pm

of the two, Jameer...He has the most potential of the two, he's faster and he works well with our system when he's actually playing PG not SG...Ridnour is bigger and more defensive which is a boost, not to mention he can shoot the ball, but I dont think he necessarily fits out system...i'd still give him a go...
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Post#3 » by MJallday59 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:33 pm

Good point. I'd love to have Ridnour run this team though. He's totally unselfish and knows *when* to shoot the ball.
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Post#4 » by MagicFan149 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:05 pm

jameer is better than luke right now... and jameer has shown the ability to play better earlier in his career... jameer has had many problems this year and his biggest problem isnt even on the court... even if jameer plays at his current level i would take him over luke ... and this is with out taking into account (we shouldnt have to but we do) the fact of jameer being dwights boy...
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Post#5 » by MagicNolesFSU » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:09 pm

Luke is more defensive? are you kidding me? This isnt even close.
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Post#6 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:12 pm

MagicNolesFSU wrote:Luke is more defensive? are you kidding me? This isnt even close.


yes, clearly a better defender...did you not know that? you seem surprised...
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Post#7 » by EasternMagic » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:24 pm

meer no doubt. i wouldnt even pick ridinour over his teammate watson
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Post#8 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:26 pm

not this season, but 05-06 and for awhile last season, Ridnour was a much better PG than Nelson and showed more promise...
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Post#9 » by huge4 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:31 pm

Luke has also been shown to be somewhat injury prone...

Neither could be mistaken for a defensive specialist, but I'd take Meer over luke in that category. At least Jameer has a little more core strength to use when other pg's try to post him (notice how he doesn't get taken to the post that often considering he's smaller than about every guard he plays).
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Post#10 » by eyriq » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:33 pm

It is not even close man, Jameer is much better. Luke can't play D theTHIEF, what are you watching?
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Post#11 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:34 pm

Jameer is only averaging 70 games played per season at this point, so he's not exactly iron man...Luke has an average of 71.5 games played per season...

and didn't Luke average just shy of 2 steals per game not long ago? Jameer the better defender? not so much...
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Post#12 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:36 pm

apparently i'm watching more basketball than the lot of you combined, which doesnt surprise me...
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Post#13 » by DiplomaticMagic » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:50 pm

No way Luke is a better defender than Meer. Jameer defense isn't that bad. He leads our team in charges. And alot of times he gets charges but gets it called against them. Even if Jameer isn't a better defender Luke certainly isn't. He is just as bad.
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Post#14 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:52 pm

haha...alrighty

his defense was a lot better just a few seasons ago...much better than advertised...as it stands today, he's not a good player in any category...
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Post#15 » by Magiclee » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:08 pm

Luke Ridnour is one of the dead worst defenders in the entire league! Why do you think he can't get any burn anywhere? He gets a few steals here and there but he also gets punished by every guard he faces. He gets posted up because he weighs like 160 lbs and he can't stay in front of anyone. Picking off a few lazy passes doesn't make you a good defender. He was the guy that Jay Bilas said "can't guard the chair I'm sitting in" on draft night, and he hasn't gotten any better.
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Post#16 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:14 pm

yawn...
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Post#17 » by huge4 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:40 pm

I haven't researched any supporting stats, but I can't believe Luke has averaged more games per season than Jameer, he missed about his entire rookie year with a broken pelvis.
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Post#18 » by MagicNolesFSU » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:42 pm

theTHIEF wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



yes, clearly a better defender...did you not know that? you seem surprised...
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ROFL seriously you must be thinking of the wrong LR. Luke plays NOOO defense. Which is why people dont even like him over watson. rofl i am seriously laughing my ass off
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Post#19 » by MagicNolesFSU » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:46 pm

theTHIEF wrote:and didn't Luke average just shy of 2 steals per game not long ago? Jameer the better defender? not so much...


theTHIEF wrote:apparently i'm watching more basketball than the lot of you combined, which doesnt surprise me...


:rofl: Bro I've always respected you basketball knowledge but you are DEAD wrong here, and its hilarious. Luke was NEVER a good defender....EVER.
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Post#20 » by theTHIEF » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:47 pm

huge4 wrote:I haven't researched any supporting stats, but I can't believe Luke has averaged more games per season than Jameer, he missed about his entire rookie year with a broken pelvis.


that math isn't that hard, number of games/number of seasons...Luke averages more...info is on NBA.com or B-BR

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ROFL seriously you must be thinking of the wrong LR. Luke plays NOOO defense. Which is why people dont even like him over watson. rofl i am seriously laughing my ass off


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