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New Article on Fran!

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:19 am
by locomagicfan
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/balo ... 09312.html


Just found this off of Hoopshype.com... can anybody translate it? The tidbit said Fran has now indicated he would come to the magic if his team lowers the Buyout.

Dwight/Battie/Gortat
Lewis/Fran/Cook
Hedo/Evans
Childress/Redick
Nelson/Dooling

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:21 am
by theTHIEF
best i could do with Google...

The long saga of Fran Vazquez and Orlando Magic will live another new episode coming weeks. La franquicia de Florida, que ha visitado varias veces al gallego en Barcelona esta temporada, ya saben que Fran s

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:23 am
by theTHIEF
doesnt sound as positive as the news we heard a little while back, but sounds like it's about 60/40 or so depending on their standings and their new coach, i guess?

man time flies when you're losing...

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:46 am
by sChOlaRlY_Magi
My girl gave me a more literal translation:

Orlando wants that Fran V

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:56 am
by Devin 1L
Thanks for the translation.

sChOlaRlY_Magi wrote:My girl gave me a more literal translation:

Orlando wants that Fran V

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:42 am
by AdamTheGreek
If Fran wants to be here bad enough (which he should since he hasn't been a good fit at Barca), he's going to have to fork the cash for his buyout (which is at $7 million).
I think Barca would lower it to around $3 million (they want him out pretty badly but he won't be let go much cheaper than this).

The Magic as a team can only put up $500k.

The ball is in Fran's court first, then we will follow if he wants to be here.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:42 am
by Versubio
Even with Fran joining the Magic I would still draft another combo big. We can pick up an SG or a PG on free agency.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:50 am
by sChOlaRlY_Magi
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Yeah, seriously after all the bad blood and the fact that he is not doing well in the euroleague do we want him???

I heard that his game is more tailored for the NBA than Euro. That he is more of a banger type, but still...

Adam do you have any additional insight on him. IIRC you're a big euroleauger(LOL not to mention the avatar).

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:51 am
by FFBlitzace
I will now refer to us as them Edging Magic.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:52 am
by craig01
Let him stay there.

Not because of the past, but because the guy stinks.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:54 am
by AdamTheGreek
I have seen very little of Fran, but yes, his has said that his game is more personalized for the NBA (i.e. he's more of a banger and wants to focus more on rebounding and blocking).

His jumper can be very consistent when he comes over.
It's just tough for him to hit any groove when he has been buried at Barca.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 3:04 am
by sChOlaRlY_Magi
Thanks Adam!

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:37 am
by Cammo101
craig01 wrote:Let him stay there.

Not because of the past, but because the guy stinks.


Pat Garrity played 25 minutes the other night. Fran, by sheer fact of being 7 feet tall and alive, is much better than Garrity. Ergo, if Fran comes over, no more Garrity. Thus, I heart Fran.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 7:18 am
by drsd
Cammo101 wrote:Pat Garrity played 25 minutes the other night. Fran, by sheer fact of being 7 feet tall and alive, is much better than Garrity. Ergo, if Fran comes over, no more Garrity. Thus, I heart Fran.


.... umm .... no.

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Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 8:53 am
by Howard Mass
If the Magic can bring him over, they should give it a shot. Otis has to make sure he will fit in here though as it is unclear how he will effect team chemistry.

However, they still will need to get a tough bigman who could light a fire under Dwight to play next to him/back him up.

This would give Orlando a frontcourt of Howard, Battie, Cook, Vazquez, Foyle and a veteran with prehaps Gorcat spending the year as the 15th man.

There are not enough frontcourt spots for all of them.

Pat Garrity and James Augustine would depart.

If Vazquez flops or disrupts the team, it will not be hard to move him with his cheap rookie deal. Even though Otis likes him, he should also explore the market for Vazquez. He has rejected offers for his rights in the past.

In the Draft, the Magic need to go best available and if Fran is coming over, pick a Point guard unless Otis absoultely fall in love with a young big.

It's also not out of the question the pick could be dealt too.

The Magic will not have their 2nd because of the Van Gundy deal. It probably would have been sold for cash anyway.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 8:57 am
by lovehoops01
Why might the pick be dealt, Howard?

They are going to have five to seven roster spots open this summer. Don't they need someone else they can bring in who won't have a big-money contract?

Look, I've been clear on this. I'm not holding my breath on Fran. I don't believe we ever will see Fran play here because I don't know if he has enough of a desire to play in the NBA to ever buy out his contract. When he has completed a buyout with his current team and has signed a contract with the Magic and is actually practicing with the team, then I might show a little interest. Until then, Fran has done nothing so far that allows me to trust that he will decide to leave Europe for the NBA.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:21 am
by KoolMikeSkii
Lets say he does come over (which ill believe when i see) does he get a rookie contract at the scale of the players that year?

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:45 am
by drsd
mikegraphix wrote:Lets say he does come over (which ill believe when i see) does he get a rookie contract at the scale of the players that year?


From what I have read, after a certain number of years, a team can move outside of the rookie cap. And that rule is exactly for this situation. Fran could not afford to come to the NBA n the rookie cap. He is making about US$3 million after taxes. That's probably around US$4 million a year.

Vazquez is not coming stateside to make half salary.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:57 am
by TheGlyde
drsd, where have you read that? I haven't come across anything like that before.

From Coon's FAQ:
When a team signs a first round draft pick in a year other than the year in which he was drafted, the player is signed using the salary scale for the year in which he is signed, not the year in which he was drafted. An exception to this is for players drafted prior to 2005, under the previous CBA.


Vasquez was 2005, ie not prior to 2005, so he would be signed using the salary scale for the year in which he is signed.

Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 12:44 pm
by Howard Mass
Lovehoops,

Yes, they will have quite a few free agents but they might deal the pick because they have too much youth.

I think they will keep it though.

Were probably going to see a shakeup at the guard, possibily an athletic player brought in along with some toughness.

So, there will be turnover here than the last couple of years but they probably will keep the pick.