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OT: Garnett named DPOY

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OT: Garnett named DPOY 

Post#1 » by MJallday59 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:18 pm

Did anyone else see this coming?

I was leaning towards Camby....
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Post#2 » by ORL » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:22 pm

I saw it. Single handedly transformed Celtics into one of the best defensive teams in the league. Camby played on a team that played atrocious defense. Combine the two...
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Post#3 » by MagicHolland » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:25 pm

Add to that that he probably wont win MVP so they kinda make up for it with the DPOY..
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Post#4 » by craig01 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:28 pm

Garnett changed the defensive culture in Boston by example.

Camby blocks a lot of shots.

Big difference IMO.
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Post#5 » by ProfX » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:08 pm

I see Dwight winning this maybe next year.
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Post#6 » by drsd » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:57 pm

The best defensive player on the best defensive team: yeh, it should be KG.
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Post#7 » by sarah42 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:45 pm

dwight should win this one one year. he's too good not to.

he totally scared the raptors in the first game and made them alter all their shots and avoid the net like a plague. amazing dude you guys have.

but he has to be on every game like kg is on every game.
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Post#8 » by N4U|Redux » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:52 pm

1. Camby is not DPOY, he just jumps for a lot of balls. Not saying he isn't defensively inclined, but Garnett deserves it this year.

2. Dwight, as of now, will never be DPOY unless he improves massively. Don't overrate his defense, he is good from the weakside, it about begins and ends there. His man defense is nothing more than average.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for my #2 comment, as I undrestand it, most of you guys believe Dwight can and will get every award. I don't think he'll necessarily be a great lockdown defender like Garnett ever, though it's not irrational to believe he will be given his age, however, that idea is purely based on "potential" not what we see nowadays. Something like, being scoring champion, is easily in the realm of possibility given how much he scores now being relatively "raw."
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Post#9 » by sarah42 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:15 pm

the thing stopping him, imo, though i don't watch every magic game is his attitude.

dude seems really nice and things like he and bosh eating together after game 1 of the playoffs is a bit ridiculous. no offense. its even worse for Bosh who lost the game in an embarrassing fashion really, so the criticism should fall on Bosh a lot more.

you need that killer mentality and sometimes he just coasts - kinda like lebron does. but he's still so young.
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Post#10 » by UCFJayBird » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:30 pm

N4U|Redux wrote:1. Camby is not DPOY, he just jumps for a lot of balls. Not saying he isn't defensively inclined, but Garnett deserves it this year.

2. Dwight, as of now, will never be DPOY unless he improves massively. Don't overrate his defense, he is good from the weakside, it about begins and ends there. His man defense is nothing more than average.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for my #2 comment, as I undrestand it, most of you guys believe Dwight can and will get every award. I don't think he'll necessarily be a great lockdown defender like Garnett ever, though it's not irrational to believe he will be given his age, however, that idea is purely based on "potential" not what we see nowadays. Something like, being scoring champion, is easily in the realm of possibility given how much he scores now being relatively "raw."


I agree to an extent. On shooting power forwards he plays terrible defense, mostly because he just doesn't know how to defend them, he doesn't know whether to give up the lane, give up the shot, and often gets caught in between.

I think his post defense is pretty good, he alters a lot of shots and does a good job keeping his hands up.

His help defense is superb though. And when he WANTS to really defend well, he's one of the best. His defense at the end of close games is some of the best in the league.

We'll see how his defense changes over the years.
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Post#11 » by TheGlyde » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:12 pm

N4U|Redux wrote:Hopefully I don't get flamed for my #2 comment, as I undrestand it, most of you guys believe Dwight can and will get every award.


I heard he is whipping out the flash gordon costume at next years all star weekend to take out the skills contest.
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