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OT- I'm brining this to game 5...

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:20 am
by thefranchise2k5
Now I know we deserved to lose game 3 and I'm not blaming the officiating on the game. However, Bosh continuously flops and it's getting ridiculous. I have lost all my respect for him because he constantly whines on the other end when he doesn't get the call. The worst was when he got pissed that he didn't get the call so he runs into Dwight and gets an offensive foul called on Dwight. Bosh complains about Steven A Smith calling him Manute Bol, but yet continues to play like a complete wuss. He doesn't need to do that because he's a great player with great skills. However, he has left me no choice. This is what I will bring to game 5 with me....

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:26 am
by socwiz15
that'll show him

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:26 am
by ivDT
i'm not so sure it'll have the desired effect...

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:30 am
by Greer
just make up a cheer how chris bosh is flopper when he shoots free throws

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:34 am
by thefranchise2k5
Well the raptors fans chant superman sucks when he goes to the line...which doesn't make any sense. I was thinking we could yell p*ssy every time Bosh gets to the line on a flop, which actually makes sense, but I don't wanna hurt the young kid's ears.

We could chant "Manute Bol", but I have too much respect for Mr. Bol as well.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:46 am
by TPF
You're just one person, you're just going to get drowned out by the toronto fans lol

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:51 am
by Howard+Nelson
i only saw about 5 toronto fans at our games.. i wouldnt be worried about them.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:54 am
by thefranchise2k5
I think TPF meant I was doing that for game 4. I wish i could be there for game four and mess with the fans, but lol I don't have the money to go to toronto for the games like that one toronto fan did.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:55 am
by Superman
TPF wrote:You're just one person, you're just going to get drowned out by the toronto fans lol


He said game 5

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:08 am
by BehindTheBushes
flopping is apart of the game and something smaller players take advantage of.. don't whine about it.. its just a tactic its the same thing as battling for position for a rebound which howard does alot and pretty hard i.e. on bargnanis T... btw im not a raptor fan just going around boards for playoffs chatting

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:12 am
by thefranchise2k5
It's been debated to ad nauseum. There;s a difference when you use your strength to your advantage and you're in the paint battling. It's another thing when you are doing the complete opposite and getting bailed out by the ref. I know Dwight does get away with spreading the elbows out every now and then, but at least he's in the paint battling.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:19 am
by Howard+Nelson
its called boxing out..not battling and it is a legal move to get a rebound.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:24 am
by minimoe
Flopping is NOT part of the game.. Or at least its not suppose to.. You beat the aposing team by your b ball skills.. Not acting skills.. You dont find that in the lease bit lame?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:29 am
by thefranchise2k5
its called boxing out..not battling and it is a legal move to get a rebound.


True, it's not battling out, it's boxing out and is completely legal, though I will say Dwight goes get away with 3 seconds and elbows every now and then. But that is still part of the game, flopping is not.

Re: OT- I'm brining this to game 5...

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:14 am
by Suneel Joshi
thefranchise2k5 wrote:Now I know we deserved to lose game 3 and I'm not blaming the officiating on the game. However, Bosh continuously flops and it's getting ridiculous. I have lost all my respect for him because he constantly whines on the other end when he doesn't get the call. The worst was when he got pissed that he didn't get the call so he runs into Dwight and gets an offensive foul called on Dwight. Bosh complains about Steven A Smith calling him Manute Bol, but yet continues to play like a complete wuss. He doesn't need to do that because he's a great player with great skills. However, he has left me no choice. This is what I will bring to game 5 with me....

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Great idea, expect that 90% of people around you won't be able to read it, and will assume you're just waving/wearing a Raptors jersey. Good one! :clap:

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:39 am
by N4U|Redux
thefranchise2k5 wrote:
its called boxing out..not battling and it is a legal move to get a rebound.


True, it's not battling out, it's boxing out and is completely legal, though I will say Dwight goes get away with 3 seconds and elbows every now and then. But that is still part of the game, flopping is not.


I don't particularly like Bosh's constant flopping around the arena, but I do think he's a great talent and hence I respect him.

However, I do not understand why punishing someone in the paint like Dwight does is regarded as "better" than the flopping Chris does.

It's been said flopping wasn't thought about 'originally' in the game. Yeah, well, neither was dunking. Dwight without dunking < Bosh without flopping.

If it works continue to use it; whatever it is. In Dwight's case, he gets away with 3 second calls constantly, Shaq constantly got out of charging calls in the past (as did Barkley, etc), and Bosh is effective at portraying a wuss. To each his own. You just sound like a big baby if you want to cry about Bosh flops working. I'm sure Toronto fans moan about how Dwight can practically sit under the basket for 24 seconds without getting a 3 in the key called on him.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:46 am
by thefranchise2k5
Well it's unusual to have a 6'10 guy in bosh who is so skinny and flops around so much. That's what makes this situation so weird. Nowitzki is sorta similar to bosh in the way they flop and put their bodies in weird positions to get fouls, but not a lot of those in the NBA. In history, it's been acceptable for the big guy to get away with being more physical but that's just the nature of the game... the big guy weighs more and doesn't fall back when someone sneezes unlike Bosh.

Maybe we should have jameer nelson cover bosh because when Bosh moves his head back as if he got hit by an elbow, it would be impossible for someone of jameer's height to have done that.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:37 am
by N4U|Redux
Well, I'm glad your stereotyping is in full effect tf2k5.

Maybe Bosh will stop what is obviously working for him just to please people like you.

By the way, Bosh is probably already a more refined offensive force than Dwight will ever be able to become because he clearly relies on his handicap of dominating force.

That's not to say Bosh is better or will ever be better, but don't disrespect Bosh because he exploits something many other great players are currently exploiting too. If the stereotype still existed that brute force dunking was looked down upon, Dwight would be a lousy player.

If we need anyone to stop flopping it's Manu Ginobili.

P.S. Bosh's flopping annoys the crap out of me too, but hell, it works for him a lot, I'm pretty sure he could beat your ass if he wanted, so don't be an arm chair critic about how tough he is or isn't.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:18 pm
by macdalejax
BehindTheBushes wrote:flopping is apart of the game and something smaller players take advantage of.. don't whine about it.. its just a tactic its the same thing as battling for position for a rebound which howard does alot and pretty hard i.e. on bargnanis T... btw im not a raptor fan just going around boards for playoffs chatting


Are you kidding me? Have you ever played this game? Taking a charge is a tactic and part of the game like fighting for position....NOT flopping. Taking a legitimate charge and flopping are two completely different things.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:30 pm
by PimpORL
It would be better if the O-rena chanted "flopper" every time he got to the line. MAYBE the refs would take notice.