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Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:09 pm
by LBPTarHeel27
Agreed. But this will probably be locked.

timekeepers

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:10 pm
by yoyo65
do the timekeepers need to work for the nba and move from game to game like the refs becuse now they work for teams and who do they ans. to the league or the team and can the league fire them :banghead:

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:22 pm
by yoyo65
i dont know why it would be blocked its a legit ? it happens all season long but you never hear of a time keeper haveing to ans why they cant push a button on time it happens all the time but no one blames t6he timekeeper

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:41 pm
by ORL
According to the TNT broadcast, it was Minnesota's timekeeper that was working the game last night. So it's a moot point because I don't think a Minnesota guy really has any preference over us or them.

But something that hasn't been mentioned is that refs also have the ability to start and stop the clock with those little packs that are attached to their belts.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:43 pm
by spinedoc
They should be allowed to look at the replay without zero's on the clock too. I'm sure the league will look at that this summer and change the rule. It would have helped us out a lot, and could have turned the game around in our favor. That was a huge psychological bucket at the time.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:51 pm
by TheRevTy
Detroit fans refuse to consider the psychological ramifications of that shot. It was a "Billups impossible shot", something that kills us every time, and would therefore be extra devastating.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:38 pm
by MagicalMan
ORL wrote:According to the TNT broadcast, it was Minnesota's timekeeper that was working the game last night. So it's a moot point because I don't think a Minnesota guy really has any preference over us or them.

But something that hasn't been mentioned is that refs also have the ability to start and stop the clock with those little packs that are attached to their belts.


detroit is closer to minneapolis than orlando is ;)

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:42 pm
by Gerhalt11
Seems to me that as soon as the timekeeper realized something was wrong, he should have been screaming his head off at the refs to stop the game. His sole job is to manage the clock, surely he noticed it didn't start well before Billups took the shot.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:48 pm
by craig01
It is after all a hard job.

You have to look at the officials arm, and then push a button.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:59 pm
by TheRevTy
Flip Saunders used to coach in Minnesota..... Just sayin'...

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:00 pm
by jab
TheRevTy wrote:Detroit fans refuse to consider the psychological ramifications of that shot. It was a "Billups impossible shot", something that kills us every time, and would therefore be extra devastating.


Many Detroit Fans are considering the psychological ramifications of the Magic players continuing to dwell on what happen at the end of the third quarter of game 2.

We only need the Orlando players to keep dwelling on it for 8 more qts. and we will be in the ECF's again.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:03 pm
by theTHIEF
craig01 wrote:It is after all a hard job.

You have to look at the officials arm, and then push a button.


the officials control the clock themselves, thats what that little pack on their back is...it's usually the senior official that starts and stops the clock...

jab wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Many Detroit Fans are considering the psychological ramifications of the Magic players continuing to dwell on what happen at the end of the third quarter of game 2.

We only need the Orlando players to keep dwelling on it for 8 more qts. and we will be in the ECF's again.


must be nice to be so cocky and smug when you have one of the best teams in the league...too bad i have to stick with my mediocre team...

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:33 pm
by jab
theTHIEF wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



must be nice to be so cocky and smug when you have one of the best teams in the league...too bad i have to stick with my mediocre team...



Cocky and smug :dontknow:
If you said the world was flat and I said it wasn't does that make me cocky and smug.

I didn't address the issue of whether or not your team was mediocre. I was attempting to address the issue of playoff mentality.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:44 pm
by bstein14
Mentally weak teams don't win conference championships and advance to the finals.

If anything, by saying how damaging that shot was... you're calling your team out for being mentally weak.

**** happens.... Bad calls happen... Every quarter of every game there is probably a questionable or bad call that is a JUDGEMENT CALL that goes against a team and costs them points.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:47 pm
by Hairy Midget
bstein14 wrote:Mentally weak teams don't win conference championships and advance to the finals.

If anything, by saying how damaging that shot was... you're calling your team out for being mentally weak.

**** happens.... Bad calls happen... Every quarter of every game there is probably a questionable or bad call that is a JUDGEMENT CALL that goes against a team and costs them points.


That's true.

Except that wasn't a judgement call.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:59 pm
by bstein14
Hairy Midget wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That's true.

Except that wasn't a judgement call.


True and not true. They made the mistake of not noticing the clock stopped for 5 seconds. One of the officials should have noticed and stopped play before Billups hit the shot.

Once Billups hit the shot and the game was not stopped, the refs had to make a judgment call because they were not allowed to review it. They had to make the judgment of whether or not the shot was off before 5.1 seconds.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 8:42 pm
by ORL
TheRevTy wrote:Flip Saunders used to coach in Minnesota..... Just sayin'...


LOL... I stand corrected.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 11:05 pm
by MagicBasketba11
bstein14 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



True and not true. They made the mistake of not noticing the clock stopped for 5 seconds. One of the officials should have noticed and stopped play before Billups hit the shot.

Once Billups hit the shot and the game was not stopped, the refs had to make a judgment call because they were not allowed to review it. They had to make the judgment of whether or not the shot was off before 5.1 seconds.


You actually expect us to believe that was a mistake? LOL come on, get real.

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 3:55 am
by SevereMagic
bstein14 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



True and not true. They made the mistake of not noticing the clock stopped for 5 seconds. One of the officials should have noticed and stopped play before Billups hit the shot.

Once Billups hit the shot and the game was not stopped, the refs had to make a judgment call because they were not allowed to review it. They had to make the judgment of whether or not the shot was off before 5.1 seconds.


The refs must be blind if they can't see the clock. And it would bother any player on any team if this happened to them. I don't beleive a team is mentally weak when a lame ass so-called "mistake" can change the outcome of a playoff game in the last seconds of the 3rd. Any fan of the game would be a joke if they agreed on how the refs made their biased "judgement" call. If they had any question (which they obviously did, cuddled together like fools tryin to count seconds in their heads), then they should've called the play no good and go on to the 4th.