A reality check for Magic fans who want to break up the team

Happyfoosball · Post #1 » by **Happyfoosball** » Tue May 6, 2008 6:09 pm

You guys are being tools. Sorry to say it, but I never really thought I had too. Three years ago I made a post that the Magic would win 50 games. I got blasted because I was being too optimistic, Orlando couldn't do it. And one thing I noticed that 50 wins would be conisdered to be a huge thing. Then consider that Orlando lose six playoff series since 1996. This year not only do they win 52 games but they won a playoff series. What will satisfy you guys? Be happy. The team was GOOD for the first time in 10 years and who knows mabye they will climb out of this 0-2 hole. But the negativty on this board is ridiculous. Really a multi page thread about how the team should trade Hedo? Hedo has been amazing this year. It's his second playoff series in a major role give the guy a break. Most teams don't win the title the first year they win 50 games. It usually takes a couple years after that. The team will get better. Don't be greedy...

**quick note to any mod who reads this, plz move it too the Orlando forum. I accidently put it here.

LAKESHOW · Post #2 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue May 6, 2008 6:19 pm

well one thing for sure, you need to dump that tall lankly overpaid guy. the guy who said he deserves kobe type money, because his game is on that kobe level.

lewis is morphing into a chris webber. shy away from the ball in the crunch. makes turnovers in critical situations. and crunch time shot selection is totally apart and away from his repitoire of moves that he can actually perform.

heatwillbeback · Post #3 » by **heatwillbeback** » Tue May 6, 2008 6:20 pm

Magic are two players away from legit contention imo

a Raja Bell type sg who could hit 3's and play good defense

and a pf/c to pair next to Howard who could hit the midrange j and complement Howard. Lets say Kurt Thomas

Nelson
Defensive and 3 pt sg
Lewis
Mid range and d pf
Howard

with Turk as the best 6th man in the league

Magic are pretty close. They have the 3 stars. Now they just need the pieces around them.

RapsVC15 · Post #4 » by **RapsVC15** » Tue May 6, 2008 6:22 pm

3 stars? More like 1.

Turkoglu was a chucker most of his career until this year, he's still got to prove that he's amongst the leagues elite and not a 1 year wonder. Lewis is a nice complimentary player but far from a star.

The-Dawson · Post #5 » by **The-Dawson** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:01 pm

It should be 1-1 if the NBA wasnt a joke and if it was 1-1 Orlando would end up beating the Pisstons so Orlando doesnt really need anything but a league that doesnt cheat

prekazi · Post #6 » by **prekazi** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:05 pm

Lewis' contract will keep Magic away from being a championship caliber team for years. If I was a Magic fan, I'd be really upset.

Post #7 » by **damo[23]** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:15 pm

prekazi wrote:Lewis' contract will keep Magic away from being a championship caliber team for years. If I was a Magic fan, I'd be really upset.

Dont know about that one. But OK.

Post #8 » by **eyriq** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:25 pm

The only reason to trade Turk is to bring more "balance" to the line up. Personally, I love the versatility of having two 6'10 guys in the starting 5. Lewis is not a banger, but he is a good 4.

Happyfoosball · Post #9 » by **Happyfoosball** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:29 pm

Why do the Magic have to trade Turk to get bigger? Why can't they just draft someone and play him off the bench? Or use the MLE? Or what about when Battie comes back? There are options other then trading away the teams best players. This is a team that shouldn't even think about rebuilding. Took the Magic 10 years to get back to 50 wins. Shouldn't abandon the team now.

NEM · Post #10 » by **NEM** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:33 pm

with the offseason coming up, i expect some major moves as far as the 2 and 4 go, possibly the 1 as well...we need to get some depth on our frontline and get a starter for the 2...my dream offseason is:

draft:
hibbert

trades:
-redick, foyle, (ST) augustine, 09 first rounder and future second rounder for udonis haslem
-(ST) arroyo, bogans, cash for (ST) corey maggette

free agency:
-Josh Childress (MLE)
-Jason Williams (LLE)

bring em back:
-mo evans
-keyon dooling
-marcin gortat

let em go:
-pat garrity

roster on opening night:

pg-nelson/williams/dooling
sg-maggette/childress
sf-turkoglu/evans/cook
pf-lewis/haslem/battie
c-howard/hibbert/gortat

this leaves space for a training camp player or a summer leaguer we like...possibly a shooting guard...not really important...it's ok to dream

in this case j-chill is like an insurance policy to maggz because of his injuries and we could slide keyon or mo to the 2 if that was to occur...it's a very versatile line up...we can go big (turk/maggette/lewis/haslem/dwight) or we can go small (nelson/childress/maggette/lewis/haslem)...and with williams we could run and slow it down somewhat

Cammo101 · Post #11 » by **Cammo101** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:34 pm

This thread reads like it's "Bring the retards to the Magic board" day.

Happyfoosball · Post #12 » by **Happyfoosball** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:40 pm

Cammo101 wrote:This thread reads like it's "Bring the retards to the Magic board" day.

They were already here.

BassMaster · Post #13 » by **BassMaster** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:47 pm

Cammo101 wrote:This thread reads like it's "Bring the retards to the Magic board" day.

and so many think that they are the real GM for the Magic. I love what RawLewD12 keeps on posting about a complete rebuild of the Magic because this team can't do anything right. So winning 50 games wasn't all that good. I mean what else does he/she want.
The Magic are getting better they won't be one of the elites like the Spurs for another two years I say, but they are getting there. And when they get there they will be able to stay there because this will be a team set to stay up with the elite for a long time.
Buy if we go by what RawLewD12 wants then this team will be bottom dweller for a long time since he/she will want to rebuild every year it doesn't meet his/her predictions.
What a crock.

Happyfoosball · Post #14 » by **Happyfoosball** » Tue May 6, 2008 8:19 pm

cougar13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

and so many think that they are the real GM for the Magic. I love what RawLewD12 keeps on posting about a complete rebuild of the Magic because this team can't do anything right. So winning 50 games wasn't all that good. I mean what else does he/she want.
The Magic are getting better they won't be one of the elites like the Spurs for another two years I say, but they are getting there. And when they get there they will be able to stay there because this will be a team set to stay up with the elite for a long time.
Buy if we go by what RawLewD12 wants then this team will be bottom dweller for a long time since he/she will want to rebuild every year it doesn't meet his/her predictions.
What a crock.

I think sometimes people tend to forget that Dwight is 22 as well. He's nowhere near his peak.

Cammo101 · Post #15 » by **Cammo101** » Tue May 6, 2008 8:22 pm

The Magic are fine and heading in the right direction. 2 loses to Detroit in Detroit sure do not change that.

SevereMagic · Post #16 » by **SevereMagic** » Tue May 6, 2008 8:40 pm

Cammo101 wrote:This thread reads like it's "Bring the retards to the Magic board" day.

FUNNY!

maginno · Post #17 » by **maginno** » Tue May 6, 2008 8:58 pm

prekazi wrote:Lewis' contract will keep Magic away from being a championship caliber team for years. If I was a Magic fan, I'd be really upset.

Word. Some of us are and have been since that fiasco. The rest? Denial. Granted its much more satisfying. Still miracles can happen. Look what The lakers were able to get Gasol for and then Miami was able to unload Shaq so maybe we can move rashard's contract to some deranged GM.

Last Guardian · Post #18 » by **Last Guardian** » Tue May 6, 2008 9:50 pm

maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Word. Some of us are and have been since that fiasco. The rest? Denial. Granted its much more satisfying. Still miracles can happen. Look what The lakers were able to get Gasol for and then Miami was able to unload Shaq so maybe we can move rashard's contract to some deranged GM.

i.e., the morons who thought we'd win 37 games and miss the playoffs. Good call guys.

magicman123 · Post #19 » by **magicman123** » Tue May 6, 2008 10:01 pm

we dont need to break up the core of this team..we need a bigger body or 2, battie can fill one of them, a better 2 guard, and a deeper bench..

maginno · Post #20 » by **maginno** » Tue May 6, 2008 10:16 pm

Solid Snake wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

i.e., the morons who thought we'd win 37 games and miss the playoffs. Good call guys.

That wouldn't be the us over here because I never made such a prediction. Nice try though. Don't let the facts get in your way (somewhat akin in characteristics to the moronic you referenced). Just make them up as you go along.