FL Today: VAN GUNDY IRATE ABOUT NON-CALL AT END OF GAME 4
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:35 pm
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ORLANDO -- Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy has seen the footage of Hedo Turkloglu
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:46 pm
no..magic just get no respect
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:49 pm
if he didnt wait until 2 sec, then the refs might of called it a foul..you know how it goes, the refs usually eat the whistle that late...it being an ugly shot didnt help either
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:53 pm
We are the Magic. We're not even allowed to complain.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:53 pm
meh...play better basketball in the third and it's a non issue...take a time out to make proper adjustments before the other team can run a successful 15-0 stretch and it's a non issue...
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:53 pm
theTHIEF wrote:meh...play better basketball in the third and it's a non issue...take a time out to make proper adjustments before the other team can run a successful 15-0 stretch and it's a non issue...
Same as game 2.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:57 pm
mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Same as game 2.
They played well at the end of Game 4, not so much in Game 2, IMO. They got bailed out in Game 2, but not really in Game 4, IMO.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:02 pm
Yeah...refs usually don't call fouls in that situation. Whether or not it's right or wrong is up for debate, but we all know more likely than not the refs aren't going to give the benefit of doubt to the shooter.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:14 pm
theTHIEF wrote:meh...play better basketball in the third and it's a non issue...take a time out to make proper adjustments before the other team can run a successful 15-0 stretch and it's a non issue...
Bingo.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:19 pm
I did see reff raise his hand up. My first reaction was it's a foul. I just was not sure what his call will be - offensive or block. When reffs went to watch replay I hoped that what they will be looking at. Unfortunetely, this time even with the review they messed up. SVG has every right to be pissed.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:20 pm
I'm surprised to see Stan go to that.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:21 pm
maginno wrote:I'm surprised to see Stan go to that.
Trying to deflect attention from Hedo?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:29 pm
mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Trying to deflect attention from Hedo?
He's a smart guy and not the only smart guy to protest calls after the fact. It does several good things that can help the team in the next game, like get the refs to call the plays closer and get the monkey off the back of the player. I don't mind it at all.
About the conspiracy theory, I'd hate to believe it. But watching the Jazz/Lakers game made me cringe. The T on Okur for fist pumping was a joke and NONE of the late game calls went Utah's way. Hmmm... We really need to revamp the entire NBA management and referee crew. I just think after the whole fiasco last year with the gambling ref that there is just no room for trusting these guys. Sad but true. (Sorta).
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:37 pm
mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Trying to deflect attention from Hedo?
or just sick and tired of poor officiating that affected the outcome of two games where we lost
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:49 pm
Good point mhec, it probably mostly had to do with Stan trying to keep attention off of Hedo.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:30 pm
Why ? We didn't lose because of Hedo.He is the one who gave us a winning chance in the first place.Rest of the team and coach is as guilty as Hedo I think. Nelson missing that FT , Dwight sucking all day long , Shard disappearing the second half , Dooling...
Looking for a scapegoat are we ?
Looking for a scapegoat are we ?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:46 pm
I'm with eyriq...conspiracy... I just think it's weird that after Donaghy said he was gonna give out the names of twenty refs that had been gambling we never heard another word about it. Yeah Donaghy's gone, but those other twenty refs are still out there making lots of money and ruining ball games. You'd think the NBA would work harder to try and figure out who they were but I'm not so sure David Stern isn't in on it. How else do you explain Donaghy's silence and the calls that have consistently gone for the big market teams this postseason? If I was a casual fan the bad officiating would be enough for me to quit watching basketball.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:56 pm
Actually, I think that SVG may be "politicking" by making his statement.
It's just a gentler ($$$$) way of saying he thinks the magic are getting screwed.
It's just a gentler ($$$$) way of saying he thinks the magic are getting screwed.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:24 pm
we should be up 3-1
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:31 pm
craig01 wrote:Actually, I think that SVG may be "politicking" by making his statement.
It's just a gentler ($$$$) way of saying he thinks the magic are getting screwed.
Exactly.