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magic play. its just pick and roles shoot jump shots.

It all starts with having a distributor. Hedo has court vision, but he's been rendered useless by Tayshaun all series and he sucks at passing into the post. Meer tends to look for himself.

you're going to get yelled at for not putting this in the game thread, but yea he doesn't. Maybe the other teams adjust on him at half time, but yea until he becomes a clutch player and one we go to down at the end of a game, he can't really be considered a super star

BALL DONT LIE!!!

Prolly because we turn it over 12,000 times a game trying to get him the ball, and when he gets it, theres a 1 in 3 chance he will score, 1 in 3 he will turn it over, and 1 in 3 he will get fouled and brick the free throws...

When he plays like tonight anyway...

^^^^^^^+2 dwight needs some good upgrade and stop crying each tiem they fouled him....

tmacformvp06 wrote:magic play. its just pick and roles shoot jump shots.

Same problem existed when Shaq was in Miami and SVG was coaching him. Shaq never got the ball in the 2nd half against Detroit and outright complained about it. It's a problem you all are going to have to deal with for years.

Did you see Dwight do anything, ANYTHING, that makes you think his having the ball in the 2nd half would've made a difference? Every time he touched it he either turned it over, shot up some garbage hoping he would get fouled, or got fouled and missed the FT's.

Dwight has no offensive game, and against a good defensive team like Detroit he's useless. This wasn't the Raptors.

He turns it over, can't pass, can't shoot free throws and has no arsenal of 1-on-1 moves. He is great against most teams because they can't matchup physically with him. If a team can match him physically, he is easily neutrilized.

because dwight still sucks at

a) catching the ball on the move
b) making a move away from the basket
c) putbacks
d) holding on to the ball while he makes a move
e) passing out of doubles quickly and efficiently

to sum it all up, all he knows is how to dunk when he is spoonfed the ball 2 feet from the basket. if you say otherwise you're only kidding yourself, because sometimes he hits short baby hooks when he's on a roll but that's it. rasheed wallace made him his bitch all series long...he has much to improve on, starting with staying mentally strong. I believe he got the ball way more than he should have, and his only job should be to clean up the mess while otehrs penetrate or try to stay open for alley-oops like tyson chandler does.

Dwight is just too soft right now. Hopefully somewhere along the line he develops a mean streak. Just way too soft. Also he has small hands it seems, as the commentators kept making reference to this and he has trouble catching the ball.

CraZyPraiZ wrote:Dwight is just too soft right now. Hopefully somewhere along the line he develops a mean streak. Just way too soft. Also he has small hands it seems, as the commentators kept making reference to this and he has trouble catching the ball.

Small hands......likeeeee

KWAME [color=brown]BROWN




Bust!! Burn him!!!!

BYAAAH

Prolly because when he does get the ball he makes stupid plays. Hes a turnover machine, cant pass out of doubles, cant make FT's, cant score on his man.. Yet hes still a beast..

Because Dwight is the only one on the team not allowed to turn the ball over a million times and miss a million shots. The others get a free pass on that stuff.

SVG has answered this question many times. Early in the game, you can go to Dwight because the opposing team is still trying to keep their bigs out of foul trouble. Later in the game, they just play hack-a-Howard.

Cigamodnalro wrote:It all starts with having a distributor. Hedo has court vision, but he's been rendered useless by Tayshaun all series and he sucks at passing into the post. Meer tends to look for himself.

Boy, maybe it's a compliment to Hedo that people's expectations of him are so high that 17.5 ppg, 47% shooting, and 5.6 assists against one of the league's best defenders is considered "useless". I mean Prince shadowed him the whole series and the guy rarely got an open shot that he didn't have to create for himself. Anyhow, I digress...

Dwight's hands failed him BIG TIME this series. Hedo's post entry passes were just fine during the regular season, so he suddenly doesn't know how to make them? Here was the problem this series in getting the ball to Dwight. Usually Dwight can completely pin his defender and maintain deep position. He wasn't able to do that against the Pistons, and where a lot of guys might take a step forward to receive the entry pass, Dwight tries to maintain the deep position (because he can't do anything away from the basket). That was easy prey for the Pistons defenders to poke the passes away. So the Magic started putting heat on their entry passes to compensate, and while many of the passes were horrible, Dwight's hands were just as atrocious. Also, on pick and rolls Dwight's rolls are half-arse so you see a lot of the passes go off his hands.

In the event that the ball was getting into Dwight, there was a good chane of TO or a foul (equivalent of a TO).

People are appropriately bashing Hedo's TO's, I can't argue with 4.2 TO per game being a problem. But he tried harder than anyone else to get Dwight the ball.

karizma87 wrote:because dwight still sucks at

a) catching the ball on the move
b) making a move away from the basket
c) putbacks
d) holding on to the ball while he makes a move
e) passing out of doubles quickly and efficiently

to sum it all up, all he knows is how to dunk when he is spoonfed the ball 2 feet from the basket. if you say otherwise you're only kidding yourself, because sometimes he hits short baby hooks when he's on a roll but that's it. rasheed wallace made him his bitch all series long...he has much to improve on, starting with staying mentally strong. I believe he got the ball way more than he should have, and his only job should be to clean up the mess while otehrs penetrate or try to stay open for alley-oops like tyson chandler does.

Imagine if Dwight had to do this against Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Oh o.

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Imagine if Dwight had to do this against Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Oh o.

Dwight, save his first season in the league, has never had trouble scoring on TD. Rasheed is the post post defender in the league, bar none.

MagicStarwipe wrote:Because Dwight is the only one on the team not allowed to turn the ball over a million times and miss a million shots. The others get a free pass on that stuff.

cha-ching! that's the money.

"Boy, maybe it's a compliment to Hedo that people's expectations of him are so high that 17.5 ppg, 47% shooting, and 5.6 assists against one of the league's best defenders is considered "useless". I mean Prince shadowed him the whole series and the guy rarely got an open shot that he didn't have to create for himself. Anyhow, I digress... "

Plain and simple, Prince took him out of the game. Mr. Fourth quarter also failed to come up big when it counted. Turkoglu's primary value is as our ball-handler and distributor. He's also earned the undue reputation of a clutch player, which he failed to demonstrate on the big stage. His inability to feed Dwight in the post, to get the team working in sync, and to put up his own clutch points really cost us in this series. It is asinine to assume otherwise.