ImageImageImageImage

Another Reason Why Time Warner SUCKS

Moderators: ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass

User avatar
UCFknight84
Rookie
Posts: 1,100
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Location: Herblando FL
Contact:

Another Reason Why Time Warner SUCKS 

Post#1 » by UCFknight84 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:06 pm

Time Warner Cable To Test Metered Internet Access


Time Warner Cable may start charging customers $1 for each gigabyte of content they download from the Internet over a specified allotment.

Time Warner (NYSE: TWX) Cable plans to start testing on Thursday metered Internet access, charging consumers $1 for each gigabyte of content over their allotment.

Reports of the test, which would start in Beaumont, Texas, sparked immediate criticism from tech bloggers who believe it is an abuse of a regional monopoly. Time Warner, on the other hand, told Reuters and the Associated Press that the additional charge was necessary to address the problem of 5% of customers using half of the capacity on local cable lines.



if this really goes down im seriously going to have to switch to satellite..take away our magic games and now charge us for downloading?!? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208401833
User avatar
Max Power
Head Coach
Posts: 6,907
And1: 1,250
Joined: Nov 30, 2001
Location: Orlando

 

Post#2 » by Max Power » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:16 pm

I feel so bad for you Time Warner guys in here. I used to work for Charter Cable, and thought it was god aweful, but TW makes them look like a million bucks. I think everyone should switch to the dish. I will give Comcast Internet props, I've had them for 8 years and haven't had one problem.
You look confused...let me fill you in.
User avatar
Potterman
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,160
And1: 35
Joined: May 31, 2004

 

Post#3 » by Potterman » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:18 pm

Yup I guess Time Warner isn't making enough money. They got kids to feed to ya'know.
:rockon: DEFCON - FIRESALE ON THE MAGIC! :rockon:
User avatar
MagicMadness
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 17,809
And1: 3,397
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Location: Orlando, FL

 

Post#4 » by MagicMadness » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:24 pm

What is our allotment?

Not that it really concerns me since I don't download full movies and games and what not, just curious is all.
User avatar
FFBlitzace
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 35,559
And1: 8,007
Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Location: Beyond the Space, Beyond the Time
 

 

Post#5 » by FFBlitzace » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:30 pm

Oh no, my porn!
11/18/2017 - I have officially disowned Nikola Vucevic and branded him a loser.

- Skal Labissiere was my guy in 2016 pre-trade. Whoops, but I still believe.
- Malik Monk was my guy in 2017. Whoops(?)
- Mo Bamba was my guy in 2018. TBD.
User avatar
UCFknight84
Rookie
Posts: 1,100
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Location: Herblando FL
Contact:

 

Post#6 » by UCFknight84 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:34 pm

my downloaded movies and burned 360 games :( :(
BassMaster
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,466
And1: 0
Joined: Mar 07, 2008

 

Post#7 » by BassMaster » Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:59 pm

UCFknight84 wrote:my downloaded movies and burned 360 games :( :(

Maybe TW is trying to stop people who downloading movies illegally, like one of my neighbors who downloads about 50 movies a week including movies that just have been released.
I think that TW is going after those who may be breaking or bending the laws. I gigabit is alot to download in one week or one month.
User avatar
macdalejax
Senior
Posts: 521
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 20, 2008
Location: Space Coast

 

Post#8 » by macdalejax » Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:07 am

It all depends on what the allotment is.
N4U|Redux
RealGM
Posts: 10,766
And1: 14
Joined: Jan 05, 2004

 

Post#9 » by N4U|Redux » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:03 am

cougar13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Maybe TW is trying to stop people who downloading movies illegally, like one of my neighbors who downloads about 50 movies a week including movies that just have been released.
I think that TW is going after those who may be breaking or bending the laws. I gigabit is alot to download in one week or one month.


Right, what if a user downloads legitimate large content?

Example: PC demo's, many of which are in the 2gb range per game.

Refined example: Downloading legit games online (i.e. Gears of War for PC). That download "cost" me ~10gb. So TW would've jacked up my price $10 for something I legally bought and downloaded on a line I pay for? Why?

Further example: Streaming educational video from your university.

YAE (Yet another example): Purchasing pornography / Sports streaming.

YAE: Sharing legal files on bittorrent

YAE: Purchasing music via iTunes.

YAE: Netflix online.

And so on. Yes, lets limit a largely honest Internet community (maybe you're cynical that everyone is out downloading illegal porn and music) because of youth (myself) clogging up their tiny lines that they feign are huge.

Seems fair. I guess you're a guy that wants the entire Internet actively monitored for child pornography? Yeah, it'll hopefully deter pedophiles, but it infringes on my rights. It's the equivalent of the dumbass cameras replacing police, the idea isn't to have a police state, if you get caught speeding by a cop looking for speeders, fine; but if you get caught by a camera which is generally recording anything, that's not a reasonable monitoring. We aren't supposed to be excessively monitored without cause.

Look up the concept of "least restrictive" laws -- this is what cable providers should employ, not dumb attempts to limit honest people using their bandwidth that they pay for. That being said, TW does have full rights to do this type of a plan, still, it's pretty bogus. Find another manner to accomplish limiting bandwidth for illegal uses; or admit you do not have enough bandwidth to go around.

EDIT: Though, I relent, there is such a thing as "too much" usage by a single customer even if it's legitimate content. So, whatever the allotment is defines whether this is fair. In reality, it's probably just a ploy for them to make more money.
"If I help get South Florida into the tournament, then 20 years from now when South Florida is ranked No. 1 in the country, people will look at the history and say, 'Dominique Jones started that program.'"
User avatar
UCFknight84
Rookie
Posts: 1,100
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Location: Herblando FL
Contact:

 

Post#10 » by UCFknight84 » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:31 am

i download about 10 gigs a week on avg, but i do my downloading at night around 1am-5am so most people are sleeping and i get faster speeds (i use newsgroups to d/l much faster)..No more Time Warner if this goes through
N4U|Redux
RealGM
Posts: 10,766
And1: 14
Joined: Jan 05, 2004

 

Post#11 » by N4U|Redux » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:34 am

UCFknight84 wrote:i download about 10 gigs a week on avg, but i do my downloading at night around 1am-5am so most people are sleeping and i get faster speeds (i use newsgroups to d/l much faster)..No more Time Warner if this goes through


The usenet does not exist.

Do not spoil the fun, boy 8).
"If I help get South Florida into the tournament, then 20 years from now when South Florida is ranked No. 1 in the country, people will look at the history and say, 'Dominique Jones started that program.'"
User avatar
UCFknight84
Rookie
Posts: 1,100
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Location: Herblando FL
Contact:

 

Post#12 » by UCFknight84 » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:40 am

N4U|Redux wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The usenet does not exist.

Do not spoil the fun, boy 8).



lmao
Buckeye-NBAFan
General Manager
Posts: 8,118
And1: 4,805
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

 

Post#13 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Wed Jun 4, 2008 5:55 am

cougar13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Maybe TW is trying to stop people who downloading movies illegally, like one of my neighbors who downloads about 50 movies a week including movies that just have been released.
I think that TW is going after those who may be breaking or bending the laws. I gigabit is alot to download in one week or one month.


Everything is moving to the net. Buying content like video games online. Live streaming video content (legally) bought through Amazon or Netflix. Online video games.
N4U|Redux
RealGM
Posts: 10,766
And1: 14
Joined: Jan 05, 2004

 

Post#14 » by N4U|Redux » Thu Jun 5, 2008 8:24 am

And, the quota is in: 40gb!

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... rrive.html

If you go above 40gb in a month, you get to pay $1 extra per gb.

Quite asinine, I'm pretty sure I could *legally* run that much data over my network in a month given what I do for research and that my method of choice for getting media (Music, Games, Movies) happen to be over the web. Thank god I'm not a Time Customer.

EDIT: The safe quota is even lower for other tiers, as low as 5gb for $30. That's insane. I'd do that on any given day, legally.

Generous caps (say, 200GB a month) designed only to rein in the top 1 percent of users sound more like a fair proposition, but a 5GB cap when paying thirty bucks a month? One can get uncapped DSL from companies like AT&T (that also offers more speed) for less than this.
"If I help get South Florida into the tournament, then 20 years from now when South Florida is ranked No. 1 in the country, people will look at the history and say, 'Dominique Jones started that program.'"

Return to Orlando Magic