Maggette could become a Magician again - Here's how

JTSUCF · Post #1 » by **JTSUCF** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:17 pm

I am sure that many of us were surprised to see that Elton Brand & Baron Davis both opted out of their deals. But this has presented the Magic with the perfect storm that could lead Maggette back to the Magic for the MLE. Here is what I think needs to happen.

Josh Smith signs an Offer Sheet with the Sixers & the Hawks do not match.

Baron Davis & Elton Brand both sign with the Clippers. For this to happen the Clippers would have to renounce the rights to Maggette.

The Grizzlies are not going to spend their money on him and I don't think he would make sense for the Warriors. That would leave him looking for a MLE deal and the Magic would be the most likely destination.

I am not saying that this will definitely happen but it seems like it could be more realistic than previously thought.

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trebone · Post #2 » by **trebone** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:37 pm

JTSUCF wrote:I am sure that many of us were surprised to see that Elton Brand & Baron Davis both opted out of their deals. But this has presented the Magic with the perfect storm that could lead Maggette back to the Magic for the MLE. Here is what I think needs to happen.

Josh Smith signs an Offer Sheet with the Sixers & the Hawks do not match.

Baron Davis & Elton Brand both sign with the Clippers. For this to happen the Clippers would have to renounce the rights to Maggette.

The Grizzlies are not going to spend their money on him and I don't think he would make sense for the Warriors. That would leave him looking for a MLE deal and the Magic would be the most likely destination.

I am not saying that this will definitely happen but it seems like it could be more realistic than previously thought.

KingRobb02 · Post #3 » by **KingRobb02** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:46 pm

The problem with that is the Josh Smith part. There is no way that the Hawks give their entire fan bas e a middle finger by refusing to match any offer for a 22 year old, multi-talented power forward who will only get better. It's a lot more realistic to say that Willie Green is the worst starter in the league and the sixer know they need an upgrade at the 2 to be taken seriously. They will throw their money at Maggette.

Post #4 » by **UCFJayBird** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:53 pm

yea unfortunately KingRobb is right. Josh Smith will be matched, unless it's a max offer, but even then they might match you never know.

And the Sixers are likely to take a good run at Maggs. We'll see what happens. I'm hoping we end up with Maggs, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

MagicFan32 · Post #5 » by **MagicFan32** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:58 pm

Essentially it will take a perfect storm for us to land Maggette. If Davis does go to the Clippers, that opens up the floodgates with the lack of capspace teams have this year there is a chance it could happen.

richboy · Post #6 » by **richboy** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 9:36 pm

Even if all things fall the right way I would not put the Magic at the top of the list in terms of teams that could get him for the MLE. Here are things you have to know about Corey. He thinks he could be a top 10 player if in right spot. He been very upset with his contract for years. If he has to take the MLE its going to be a 1 year thing so he can go back at it next year. He will want to go to a team that could win but also that he could put up big numbers. With the Magic already having Hedo, Rashard, Dwight, Jameer what kind of numbers can he put on this team. My bet with Corey only Dwight would be the only player on the roster that averaged over 16 per game. I just don't see him doing that if he doesn't have the money first.

More likely he goes to Cleveland where he play a ton of National tv games and be a easy second option. Could probably put up 22 a game on one of the best teams in the East. He could go Toronto and try to play with a Canadian version of the big 3.

Post #7 » by **UCFJayBird** » Tue Jul 1, 2008 9:41 pm

richboy wrote:Even if all things fall the right way I would not put the Magic at the top of the list in terms of teams that could get him for the MLE. Here are things you have to know about Corey. He thinks he could be a top 10 player if in right spot. He been very upset with his contract for years. If he has to take the MLE its going to be a 1 year thing so he can go back at it next year. He will want to go to a team that could win but also that he could put up big numbers. With the Magic already having Hedo, Rashard, Dwight, Jameer what kind of numbers can he put on this team. My bet with Corey only Dwight would be the only player on the roster that averaged over 16 per game. I just don't see him doing that if he doesn't have the money first.

More likely he goes to Cleveland where he play a ton of National tv games and be a easy second option. Could probably put up 22 a game on one of the best teams in the East. He could go Toronto and try to play with a Canadian version of the big 3.

He's said for years he'd love to come back and play in Orlando. His family is here, and he loved Orlando. Plus the MLE is worth more in Florida because no state tax.

I'd say we're definitely up there if he was going to sign somewhere for the MLE. At this point, Corey's bound to be thinking about wanting to win a championship, being a second option might not be as important anymore.

KevKmett1019 · Post #8 » by **KevKmett1019** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 12:15 am

The Sixers won't go after Corey Maggette. Sixers are going to make a run at Josh Smith and make the offer untouchable for the Hawks. They are going to make the contract so front heavy that the Hawks won't be able to sign him. Yes I agree that Willie Green is the worse starter in the league but he is only starting because the Sixers have Thaddeus Young playing Power Forward and Andre Iguloda as the 3. Both of these players are suited for a 3 and 2. If the Sixers get Josh Smith, I guarantee this will happen. Magic will sign Corey Maggette within the next two weeks

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #9 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 12:53 am

UCFJayBird wrote:yea unfortunately KingRobb is right. Josh Smith will be matched, unless it's a max offer, but even then they might match you never know.

And the Sixers are likely to take a good run at Maggs. We'll see what happens. I'm hoping we end up with Maggs, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

IF the Sixers take a page out of the Hawks and Nuggets playbook and front load the contract their is a good chance that they will not match. Just look at what the Hawks did to get Joe Johnson and the Nuggets did to Kenyon Martin. If they front load the contract, even if it is not a max deal, it would put the Hawks so far into the tax for a player that is not a superstar that it would be fiscally stupid for them to match. How ironic that would be if it happened to the Hawks.

Even if the Hawks did match it seems like Dang and Brand are next on their list. I don't see the Bull matching on any loaded deal offered to Dang. In fact it seems like Maggette is last on their list. So I don't see the Sixers being a major player in this.

Even if Davis signs with the Clippers and it forces the Clippers to renounce Maggette (which looks like it is going to happen), I still don't see Maggette coming to Orlando. But at the same time it make for an interesting storyline.

KingRobb02 · Post #10 » by **KingRobb02** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 2:13 am

Front loading only works when you have more money than the other tea is willing to match. The Sixers only have like 11 million in cap space, and that is only if they renounce their free agents not named Andre Igoudala, namely Louis Williams.

Post #11 » by **Howard Mass** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:27 am

It does look like Maggette will have to sign for an MLE elsewhere.

The Clipps will likely renounce him.

Caproom options for limited.

The key for the Magic is how much wiggle room do they want in regards to the luxury tax.

Maggette would be a great addition. It would hurt depth but could plug holes other ways.

It's going to be an interesting week.

MagicFan32 · Post #12 » by **MagicFan32** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:38 am

This could happen...the decision Corey has to make is whether to go with the proven, but possibly declining spurs, or a team on the rise still out to earn respect in the magic. If Corey came here we'd really close the gap on alot of the top tier teams.

and Cleveland? Right, he's going to go to a team that's going to lose Bron in 2 years..

Post #13 » by **Bensational** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:54 am

if we hang out all day for maggette, at what point do our other options dry up.... and what are our other options?? MP?

Magicalltheway · Post #14 » by **Magicalltheway** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 2:54 pm

How can we compete with the Celts now?

Magicalltheway · Post #15 » by **Magicalltheway** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 2:58 pm

on the other hand in Boston he will have to be the 4th option, is he willing to accept that?

sportsrock37 · Post #16 » by **sportsrock37** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:25 pm

Magicalltheway wrote:on the other hand in Boston he will have to be the 4th option, is he willing to accept that?

He'd be the 4th option in Orlando too. The only difference is he'd be starting here and coming off the bench in Boston.

Optimus_Steel · Post #17 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:42 pm

Magicalltheway wrote:How can we compete with the Celts now?

Well lets see: he played for us in the past and expressed his interest in returning. He owns a home and his parents live here. His wife is Puertorican and member of the national basketball team in PR, PR is alot closer to Orlando than Boston. Our team has the best center in the league and a bright future.

rafy · Post #18 » by **rafy** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:14 pm

I don't understand why do you like Corey so much.

He is a good scorer, but the guy has flaws and more importantly, he is a SF and you have Ra$hard and Hedo already. 3 SF's, a C and a dwarf PG.

The take it to the rack approach could be useful and Maggette could help there, but he isn't a great shooter, he can't dribble and he doesn't pass.

You guys could have a title contender if your GM wasn't as dumb as Maggette himself.

DMannOC · Post #19 » by **DMannOC** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:27 pm

I think people like Maggs because he is a true slasher which is one thing we are missing and he can play the 2 spot. Not to mention how often he gets to the line

Magicalltheway · Post #20 » by **Magicalltheway** » Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:56 pm

prorl wrote:
Magicalltheway wrote:How can we compete with the Celts now?

Well lets see: he played for us in the past and expressed his interest in returning. He owns a home and his parents live here. His wife is Puertorican and member of the national basketball team in PR, PR is alot closer to Orlando than Boston. Our team has the best center in the league and a bright future.

I agree but are all these that you mentioned enough to compare with a proven ring?