Game 10 Thread - Knicks vs. Sixers @ 7 pm ET Tyrese's 22nd Birthday

[ankle420breaker]

Everyone wanted the PJ signing to happen so badly. Never understood it.

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The problem was even Jo and Harden asked for Tucker. He would be fine playing 16MPG off the bench as the backup 4. But Glenn has other plans that suck.

Just validates that we're an undisciplined franchise from top to bottom. Total free agency misfire. Same goes for House who's already managed to play himself out of the rotation.

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[the_process]

Everyone wanted the PJ signing to happen so badly. Never understood it.

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The problem was even Jo and Harden asked for Tucker. He would be fine playing 16MPG off the bench as the backup 4. But Glenn has other plans that suck.

Just validates that we're an undisciplined franchise from top to bottom. Total free agency misfire. Same goes for House who's already managed to play himself out of the rotation.

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“But, but… every talking head thought Tucker and House were good signings!”

[Negrodamus]

Why would the Nets want Maxey when Cam Thomas provides the same non-distributing offense with lackluster defense?

I'm not even joking about that.

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

"Sorry, Maxey, you POS".

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Everyone wanted the PJ signing to happen so badly. Never understood it.

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I can be proudly left off that list. The only way I was fine with signing Tucker was with the idea that he would be a rotation player and nothing more. I thought that was the plan until I saw the massive deal he inked that keeps him here until he's my age. Therefore the contract needs to be justified so he's now a 35 MPG starter at 37 years old and he's CLEARLY lost a step. Sure, he's big and tough and has a mean streak, but the guy is as cooked as deep fried hamburger steak.
I fail to see how people can cry it out about Tobias who is as durable and consistent within his role as they come and in the same breath celebrate signing PJ Tucker, and THEN.... Suggesting we replace Tobias WITH Tucker and trading Tobias for trash fillers because Tucker is a better fit! No! I loath PJ Tucker at the moment. He really needs to be benched. We're screwed at small forward unless Daniel House can show up or Matisse starts hitting threes. Tucker is a washed work sock at this point. Horrible signing! Bring back Lee Nailon!

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I really think we need to work a small trade at this point to fill the small forward position. There's got to be a player available that won't cost a lot. Amir Coffey? Stanley Johnson? Josh Jackson?

[brannigan73]

Tucker only cost us 11 million for 3 years and 2 second round picks because we tampered to get him lol.

[76ciology]

Tucker needs harden on offense and 1-2 deflector/roamer on defense.

We’re exposing his 6’4” height and 37yo age with how we’re using him.

And you are playing 4v5 on rebounding, transition offense and defense with him. He’s not running down the court or crashing for boards.

If Harden, Maxey and Harden is your core and you HAVE to play him, you need someone like Evan Mobley or Giannis to make-up for everything he lacks

[eyeatoma]

Maybe the Embiid situation is what it is and he got hurt during the summer and he has a nasty illness right now.

But I can't help but wonder if a guy coming off another letdown playoffs, coming into the season looking like a mope and miserable and not hustling. Ducking a post game presser after one of the losses, now missing 3 games with an illness when he played games with a broken face and a torn thumb ligament. Starting to get the feeling the guy just isn't into it this season.

Now, even with a guy like Embiid, he could play at half interest and still average 25 and 10, but I wonder if his patience with this organization, and being perpetually injured in the playoffs, and not able to get over the hump is starting to wear on him psychologically. Remember at one point he said he almost gave up on basketball. Granted, that was years back.

Anyway, maybe it's nothing and he really is just sick. Just saying, it's a feeling I can't shake. Real or not.

He lost his brother and had his second foot fracture. 99% of people would say the same thing. Come on let's not create drama where there isn't any.

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[76ciology]

The key with winning with Embiid is to not rely heavily on him to win games. Biid should be icing on the cake or you’ll just be at the mercy of his inconsistency.

Let there be a lot of possessions with Embiid as pressure release valve than a focal point on offense.

Don’t just funnel the defense to Embiid. Add another rim protector or atleast get someone who is good at roaming and deflections like Thybulle or Melton.

For Embiid, he needs to be over himself that he’s just not as good as Gianni and Jokic. The more he tries to prove himself that he is as good or even better, the more it hurts our team. He either fall short in reaching that goal or if he reach that goal, his body just crumbles.

You need to be objective with embiid. If you keep buying into this image of him being an MVP, GOAT points per minute guy or “he can anchor this team’s defense into top 5”, you’ll just end up in disappointment.

He’s just HIGHLY INCONSISTENT and you’re STUCKED with him.

But that doesnt mean you cant win with him, you just need more talent to move the needle compared to other top players.

[rocketsfan100]

Tucker needs harden on offense and 1-2 deflector/roamer on defense.

We’re exposing his 6’4” height and 37yo age with how we’re using him.

And you are playing 4v5 on rebounding, transition offense and defense with him. He’s not running down the court or crashing for boards.

If Harden, Maxey and Harden is your core and you HAVE to play him, you need someone like Evan Mobley or Giannis to make-up for everything he lacks

Maxey will have to adjust on the fly to teams now keying on him instead of the gravity harden creates with his playmaking and forces the defense to focus on harden. That usually allows Maxey to be highly efficient and get the ball in his sweet spots with harden getting him looks in single coverage.


I think this is a blessing in disguise for Maxey to be the focal point of the offense as the initiator and scorer like harden has been to develop his game . It will help the Sixers in the long run

[76ciology]

Tucker needs harden on offense and 1-2 deflector/roamer on defense.

We’re exposing his 6’4” height and 37yo age with how we’re using him.

And you are playing 4v5 on rebounding, transition offense and defense with him. He’s not running down the court or crashing for boards.

If Harden, Maxey and Harden is your core and you HAVE to play him, you need someone like Evan Mobley or Giannis to make-up for everything he lacks

Maxey will have to adjust on the fly to teams now keying on him instead of the gravity harden creates with his playmaking and forces the defense to focus on harden. That usually allows Maxey to be highly efficient and get the ball in his sweet spots with harden getting him looks in single coverage.


I think this is a blessing in disguise for Maxey to be the focal point of the offense as the initiator and scorer like harden has been to develop his game . It will help the Sixers in the long run

Offensively, we’ll just take what the defensive give us. If they stick to Maxey, it frees up Harden and Embiid and so forth.

The problem is Tucker’s lack of impact on the defensive end.

[76ciology]

Reed-Melton-Thybulle was fun.

Then when we replace Reed with Tucker.

Knicks came creeping. Our defense was bad. While Maxey went hero ball and was missing shots.

Doc replaced Tucker with Reed with 1:45 remaining.

Toppin made a 3 over outstretch of Reed
Brunson made a floater over outstretch arms of Reed

Tucker made freethrow. Missed. Thybulle kickout. Maxey heroball 3 (i wouldnt mind he taking it tho. It was semi-open and he’s an elite shooter)

Missed

Game over

[76Love]

Doc is part of the problem but even with Harden and Embiid healthy, this isn't a championship team. We look like an old slow team. I blame Morey more than anyone for not getting the pieces to fit our flaws. He's been/goes to games so he knew we needed some athletes and lob threats

I was never a fan of PJ Tucker. Yes he played great defense for several years but if he's not hitting that corner 3 he irrelevant on offense and yet Morey gave him 3 years at age 37

House was getting 10 day contracts for a reason and Morey decided to give him 2 years with a player option. He also wants to be a part time rapper

Did Morey not learn that these ex Rockets players didn't work in Houston but yet he brings them here thinking they would work here with the personnel that we have? Morey and his hard on for ex Rockets players have screwed us

Once the Knicks caught the lead late in the 4th I knew we weren't going to win cause we don't know how to win in these situations

Watching these games gets real redundant and a chore after a while

[ankle420breaker]

Once healthy, the depth chart should look something like this:

Embiid/Reed/Harrell
Harris/Niang/Tuck
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Maxey/Melton
Harden/Shake

It'll never happen as long as Doc remains at the helm, but we should move Harris back to 4 and demote Tuck to a smaller reserve role. Thybulle, Melton, and Reed creating chaos defensively should be something we regularly deploy.




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[Bum Adebayo]

Tonight will start the Embiid show, just sit and enjoy!

Oops big fail, maybe Embiid is a beta who doesn't want to carry the team?

Saving himself until we play as the 8th seed in playoffs

Yeah he's saving himself to peak in playoffs, he has a history of doing that since 2018...

[Eyeamok]

Once healthy, the depth chart should look something like this:

Embiid/Reed/Harrell
Harris/Niang/Tuck
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Maxey/Melton
Harden/Shake

It'll never happen as long as Doc remains at the helm, but we should move Harris back to 4 and demote Tuck to a smaller reserve role. Thybulle, Melton, and Reed creating chaos defensively should be something we regularly deploy.




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You are right but it probably won't happen. Because Doc always seems more concerned about winning individual games then actually building a team with a viable bench. Now is the time to build that bench. You can't expect bench guys to come in and play like full-time starters when they always get minimal playing time in regular games. That's just asking a lot. Right now Doc should resign himself to trying to win games but also develop the bench guys. So when the regular starters come back these bench guys will be prepared.

These injuries could be a blessing in disguise for this team. Seize the moment doc seize the moment.

[76ciology]

Once healthy, the depth chart should look something like this:

Embiid/Reed/Harrell
Harris/Niang/Tuck
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Maxey/Melton
Harden/Shake

It'll never happen as long as Doc remains at the helm, but we should move Harris back to 4 and demote Tuck to a smaller reserve role. Thybulle, Melton, and Reed creating chaos defensively should be something we regularly deploy.




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Yup. I dont mind that. I like Thybulle with the starters. And give our deflectors more minutes