Doc Rivers is an under the radar coach of the year candidate

[76ciology]

An open look at what? They didn't need to make a shot (I know that's not what you're saying). He called the timeout, so that his star laden team would have the entire court to get the ball in to all quality shooters, and a play was clearly called. Joel set a pick for you Tobi who ran and hustled, and Harden who jogged like a lazy fat bum instead of coming to get the ball, and Milton. Leaving Joel with a small Pat Beverly on his back Melton made a lazy pass and Westbrook made a great play. They just went through the motions like the game was over, but that was a clear play called. Instead of going to option A, other options should have tried harder. You also have the Milton option instead of Tisse so that there are no poor options. This is indisputable. Please watch again. They just played like the game was over, as they have been doing for the last couple of minutes and that's why the coach called the time out.

Melton is with Davis on front, the only pass he has is a lob to Joel, the lob is what allows Westbrook to get in front ot the ballm he has a pass to Milton on the corner but he's probably following what they draw....The so called play is obviously a pass to Joel who is trying to get position on the ball inside the paint, everyone was anticipating that and is the reason Davis is on front of the inbounds and not guarding Joel.


The fact you can see this and the fault goes from Melton to Harden but nothing to doc is hilarious, but sure, i'm the one over thinking it.

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Its at 1:47 mark.

[Murray_17]

The only possible scenario is Joel? Really?

Not if they try to get freakin open. Try again. I'm actually impressed you haven't moved to the lack of Paul Reed

We move the line from no play... To the intention of the obvious play.

I don't know what you're reading...

I told you, Melton insist on the Joel pass because probably that was the design play. I never said anything else.

Milton is on the corner, yes, but also Davis has the pass seal and Westbrook could also intercept the pass because Milton makes the same mistake you accused Harden of doing and he is getting closer to the corner instead of getting close to the inbounds. No one is doing their decoy role good.

The only guy fighting for position to get the ball in the play is Joel, the same thing happens with the other 2 inbounds botches, which is another sign of this being the default way of playing the inbounds.

If you tell me, everyone makes a mistake here without the coach explaining the options when he draws the play, you're really fanboying harder than whatever joke about Paul Reed you tried for like the 4th time.

[76ciology]

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Sorry friend, but Davis was not fronting Jojo. Davis was behind Jojo.

Melton is with Davis on front, the only pass he has is a lob to Joel, the lob is what allows Westbrook to get in front ot the ballm he has a pass to Milton on the corner but he's probably following what they draw....The so called play is obviously a pass to Joel who is trying to get position on the ball inside the paint, everyone was anticipating that and is the reason Davis is on front of the inbounds and not guarding Joel.

It’s at 1:47 mark. That is if we’re talking the same action.

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I hope you dont find this discussion on who’s right or wrong. Personally, I also want to also understand where we went wrong and i hope we can fix it before the playoffs

[M2J]

The only possible scenario is Joel? Really?

Not if they try to get freakin open. Try again. I'm actually impressed you haven't moved to the lack of Paul Reed

We move the line from no play... To the intention of the obvious play.

I don't know what you're reading...

I told you, Melton insist on the Joel pass because probably that was the design play. I never said anything else.

Milton is on the corner, yes, but also Davis has the pass seal and Westbrook could also intercept the pass because Milton makes the same mistake you accused Harden of doing and he is getting closer to the corner instead of getting close to the inbounds. No one is doing their decoy role good.

The only guy fighting for position to get the ball in the play is Joel, the same thing happens with the other 2 inbounds botches, which is another sign of this being the default way of playing the inbounds.

If you tell me, everyone makes a mistake here without the coach explaining the options when he draws the play, you're really fanboying harder than whatever joke about Paul Reed you tried for like the 4th time.

I'm sorry, what? Oh, I was right? Doc called a timeout, created a play with 4 options and did everything except make them all take the execution seriously as millionaire basketball players in his 30 second timeout. Yet they still won convincingly.

Thanks

[Murray_17]

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Sorry friend, but Davis was not fronting Jojo. Davis was behind Jojo.
It’s at 1:47 mark. That is if we’re talking the same action.

???

Davis is fronting Melton on the inbounds, the one guarding Joel is Beverly. Davis in the inbounds forces a lob for Joel which is easily intercepted by Westbrook who is in the middle between guarding Milton on the corner and anticipating the pass to Joel.

[Murray_17]

I'm sorry, what? Oh, I was right? Doc called a timeout, created a play with 4 options and did everything except make them all take the execution seriously as millionaire basketball players in his 30 second timeout. Yet they still won convincingly.

Thanks

Lol

"I'm right because Doc created something".

[76ciology]

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Sorry friend, but Davis was not fronting Jojo. Davis was behind Jojo.
It’s at 1:47 mark. That is if we’re talking the same action.

???

Davis is fronting Melton on the inbounds, the one guarding Joel is Beverly. Davis in the inbounds forces a lob for Joel which is easily intercepted by Westbrook who is in the middle between guarding Milton on the corner and anticipating the pass to Joel.

Oh yeah. My bad there.

But still I thought it was a good set. Melton has 3 options to pass.

Given AD is in front of him. He’s thinking if he pass it high to Embiid, Embiid would have the size advantage over Beverly or Westbrook. But Westbrook outjumped him to get the ball.

Melton has Milton at the left, Harden at the right and Embiid in front of him. Those are 3 options.

That is for that action.. I do think Melton, Harden and Embiid have their share of faults there. You can listen Alaa talking about how Embiid should be “stronger than that” in the 2:00 mark

But the other ones like..

Embiid missed freethrow

Embiid being soft to receive the inbound pass that even Kate and Alaa said he should not have flopped. (3:27 mark)

Melton throwing a crazy pass down the other end of the court for Tucker to chase

Melton missing a freethrow

And that foul of Thybulle on Reeves taking a 3, are all the player’s fault.

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[spikeslovechild]

Did he was almost always turned the ball over out of a Brett Brown timeout.

It didn't look like he drew much if any plays

Just one random year, but in 2018 we were 1.22 points per ATO play

https://www.pbpstats.com/pace-efficiency-summary/nba?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&Type=Team

In 2017-2018 we had the 5th overall record and ranked 6th (1.10) in points per possession after a timeout. In 2018-2019 we had the 7th overall record and ranked 12th (1.10) in points per possession after a timeout. in 2019-20 we had the 13th overall record and ranked 28th (0.98) in points per possession after a timeout.

I don't know where you are getting your numbers from you may be looking at defensive stats. I included the results of the team when they were good so of course, you would expect the PPP after a timeout would be good too but it was middling at best if you take the average of those three years we ranked 15th after a timeout with PPP at a time when our record averaged 8th.

Now looking at the stats Doc Rivers numbers haven't been great either much worse than I thought and even Brown. This is why it's good sometimes to get outside of your biases/impressions and just look at the data but Brett Brown wasn't good either.