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Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless

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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#81 » by the_process » Sat Jan 7, 2023 5:05 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:After that we draft Mikal Bridges and trade him for Zaire Smith. Can you imagine Bridges on this roster RIGHT NOW?


There may have been bigger and worse mistakes made by the clowns that followed Hinkie after that POS Silver decided to wreck the organization, but the Bridges trade stands out to me as the all time unforced error.

We finally draft the perfect fit, a hometown kid who is an NBA ready version of the type of player that teams are endlessly searching for (including us!), and we trade him for a "raw athlete with potential upside" and a pick that might be valuable if a league rule is changed. At the time I was flabbergasted that a 'win now' team would make that trade - it was like trading a blue chip stock for a speculative start up.

I'm not going to go as far as you and say that Bridges makes us a 65 win team, but plug him in the lineup at the 3 and this group is a much more legit title contender. The need to sign either Tucker or House would have been unnecessary, freeing up money to get a real backup center and point guard, or a rebounding PF, and also to trade Thybulle and Korkmaz for more useful pieces.


The bigger question than the trade is: what if they had just gone ahead and drafted SGA? I know he put it out there about LA… but he was the best player on the board at the time IIRC.

But the Sixers at that time thought they were going to use those pieces (16 and the Heat pick) to get Kawhi, or another star player. The Heat pick was unprotected and they weren’t very good at the time post LeBron.

No one was yet ready to give up on Ben. We were all wrong, but I digress.

It blew up in their faces, but the logic behind the Mikal trade was solid.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#82 » by Iverson Armband » Sat Jan 7, 2023 5:16 pm

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76ciology wrote:Christian Wood is a headcase.

he is one of those delusional players like Andre Blatche, that you wouldnt want on a winning team. While he does not have THAT upside for a rebuilding team.

If you want to talk about someone who we let go and might be a good fit, it’s Jerami Grant.

How can you develop Jerami Grant with Ben Simmons and Embiid?

Christian Wood or Jerami Grant will NEVER be who they are on this team because Ben and Biid have most of the spotlight and usage.


Yeah ummm only one of those guys has a usage rate around 35%, the other (your fav to hate on) loves to share the ball at around 20% usage.
But yes Christian and Jerami would not of developed as they did in Philly, their personalities would not put up with being bit players in Embiid Ball play.

I love watching you make (not so) subtle jabs but don’t have the heart to bring up Simmons anymore specifically because you know he sucks :lol:
always a jump shot away.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#83 » by mjkvol » Sat Jan 7, 2023 5:42 pm

the_process wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:After that we draft Mikal Bridges and trade him for Zaire Smith. Can you imagine Bridges on this roster RIGHT NOW?


There may have been bigger and worse mistakes made by the clowns that followed Hinkie after that POS Silver decided to wreck the organization, but the Bridges trade stands out to me as the all time unforced error.

We finally draft the perfect fit, a hometown kid who is an NBA ready version of the type of player that teams are endlessly searching for (including us!), and we trade him for a "raw athlete with potential upside" and a pick that might be valuable if a league rule is changed. At the time I was flabbergasted that a 'win now' team would make that trade - it was like trading a blue chip stock for a speculative start up.

I'm not going to go as far as you and say that Bridges makes us a 65 win team, but plug him in the lineup at the 3 and this group is a much more legit title contender. The need to sign either Tucker or House would have been unnecessary, freeing up money to get a real backup center and point guard, or a rebounding PF, and also to trade Thybulle and Korkmaz for more useful pieces.


The bigger question than the trade is: what if they had just gone ahead and drafted SGA? I know he put it out there about LA… but he was the best player on the board at the time IIRC.

But the Sixers at that time thought they were going to use those pieces (16 and the Heat pick) to get Kawhi, or another star player. The Heat pick was unprotected and they weren’t very good at the time post LeBron.

No one was yet ready to give up on Ben. We were all wrong, but I digress.

It blew up in their faces, but the logic behind the Mikal trade was solid.


SGA was the best player, but it was a fan pipe dream, as it was crystal clear that he had no interest in coming here. Probably had something to do with him dropping as far as he did.

Disagree on Bridges. Sometimes subscribing to "a bird in the hand..." just makes sense as opposed to what was some serious speculation, both about the pick and especially getting Kawhi. We were built to win, and one of the urgent needs was a solid 3&D guy, and here he was, a hometown kid with an NBA ready game.

I might have been more inclined to agree with you if what Bridges offered as a player didn't fit to a 'T' the kind of player of which we were in desperate need. Hated the trade then, and have hated it more ever since.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#84 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jan 7, 2023 9:12 pm

It's crazy how Zhaire Smith and Jarett Culver were both busts. Even weirder when Jah'Mius Ramsey busted a couple year later.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#85 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 8, 2023 2:56 am

Kobblehead wrote:It's crazy how Zhaire Smith and Jarett Culver were both busts. Even weirder when Jah'Mius Ramsey busted a couple year later.


I’d rather have Jarett Culver than Springer. Im surprised how bad Culver has become
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#86 » by Rastas » Sun Jan 8, 2023 4:44 am

Iverson Armband wrote:
Rastas wrote:
76ciology wrote:Christian Wood is a headcase.

he is one of those delusional players like Andre Blatche, that you wouldnt want on a winning team. While he does not have THAT upside for a rebuilding team.

If you want to talk about someone who we let go and might be a good fit, it’s Jerami Grant.

How can you develop Jerami Grant with Ben Simmons and Embiid?

Christian Wood or Jerami Grant will NEVER be who they are on this team because Ben and Biid have most of the spotlight and usage.


Yeah ummm only one of those guys has a usage rate around 35%, the other (your fav to hate on) loves to share the ball at around 20% usage.
But yes Christian and Jerami would not of developed as they did in Philly, their personalities would not put up with being bit players in Embiid Ball play.

I love watching you make (not so) subtle jabs but don’t have the heart to bring up Simmons anymore specifically because you know he sucks :lol:


:wink:
Stay tuned Armband , plenty more season left for a few more jabs.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#87 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 8, 2023 6:37 am

Should already have a template saved already for topics to discuss after every loss

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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#88 » by thenbaman » Sun Jan 8, 2023 3:11 pm

Anyone know if embiid is playing today?
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#89 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Jan 8, 2023 3:29 pm

Should definitely play, this is a lottery team without him.
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Re: Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless 

Post#90 » by Murray_17 » Sun Jan 8, 2023 5:09 pm

thenbaman wrote:Anyone know if embiid is playing today?


He isn't playing

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