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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#141 » by Jhawk03 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:52 am

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Jhawk03 wrote:Enough already with tanking for the #3 seed. This team will win in spite of Rivers. Bunch of scared ass losers. Every game from here on out is a playoff warm-up game, just look at Thunder vs Clippers. I suppose OKC should've started tanking three weeks ago vs now being in a position to gain playoff experience for a team that desperately needs it. The same could be said for Memphis a couple years ago. If the goal is to make the playoffs healthy, I mean nm, that's a dumbass goal. **** happens, ask Siakam if he's sorry for the elbow last year. This **** is unbelievable. Let me grab my magic wand and make Sixers the #1 seed with a clean bill of health. :banghead:


Your post makes zero sense. You're going to compare young upstart teams like OKC and MEM to a veteran group like the Sixers?

What's so complicated about giving Harden, Embiid, and Tucker days off in the weeks leading up to the post season, not playing them more than 32-34 minutes a night, and especially pulling Harden from a game where he is clearly hurt but instead letting him go 2 OT's while dragging one leg around?

The idea is to be smart with minutes and nights off with a veteran group that has no need to "gain experience", but instead needs to be prepared for a hopefully long, grueling playoff run after a too-long season. It ain't rocket science.


We want the same thing, if my post doesn't make sense then you haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying all year.

You can rest star players and at the same time not TANK. That's what I'm addressing. I think Explosions mentioned a balancing act, that's better than outright rest, there's a balance that should be executed as far as minutes. We all want the same thing, but the implementation of that is mostly due to the MVP pursuit. The goal for the REGULAR SEASON (unfortunately) is to get Embiid the MVP. He deserves it, even if he doesn't.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#142 » by mjkvol » Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:57 pm

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Jhawk03 wrote:Enough already with tanking for the #3 seed. This team will win in spite of Rivers. Bunch of scared ass losers. Every game from here on out is a playoff warm-up game, just look at Thunder vs Clippers. I suppose OKC should've started tanking three weeks ago vs now being in a position to gain playoff experience for a team that desperately needs it. The same could be said for Memphis a couple years ago. If the goal is to make the playoffs healthy, I mean nm, that's a dumbass goal. **** happens, ask Siakam if he's sorry for the elbow last year. This **** is unbelievable. Let me grab my magic wand and make Sixers the #1 seed with a clean bill of health. :banghead:


Your post makes zero sense. You're going to compare young upstart teams like OKC and MEM to a veteran group like the Sixers?

What's so complicated about giving Harden, Embiid, and Tucker days off in the weeks leading up to the post season, not playing them more than 32-34 minutes a night, and especially pulling Harden from a game where he is clearly hurt but instead letting him go 2 OT's while dragging one leg around?

The idea is to be smart with minutes and nights off with a veteran group that has no need to "gain experience", but instead needs to be prepared for a hopefully long, grueling playoff run after a too-long season. It ain't rocket science.


We want the same thing, if my post doesn't make sense then you haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying all year.

You can rest star players and at the same time not TANK. That's what I'm addressing. I think Explosions mentioned a balancing act, that's better than outright rest, there's a balance that should be executed as far as minutes. We all want the same thing, but the implementation of that is mostly due to the MVP pursuit. The goal for the REGULAR SEASON (unfortunately) is to get Embiid the MVP. He deserves it, even if he doesn't.


I haven't been "paying attention" to what you've been saying anymore than you've been paying attention to what I've been saying. Get over yourself.

No one here is talking about "tanking". It's not complicated - play the veteran players against the better teams, stagger the days off against the lesser teams, and absolutely do not play Harden, Embiid, or Tucker on both ends of BtB's. Minutes should be maxed out at 32-34 in any game the last couple of weeks before the post season.

And if there is any injury or discomfort, shut them down. Playing Harden after he aggravated his injury in a regular season game against f***king Chicago was asinine beyond all possible reason.

That's not tanking, it's being smart and focusing on the big prize instead of chasing an extra home game and padding a W-L record. As far as Embiid's MVP chase, if his primary focus is a media-voted award, then his priorities might be a bit warped.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#143 » by Jhawk03 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:03 am

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mjkvol wrote:
Your post makes zero sense. You're going to compare young upstart teams like OKC and MEM to a veteran group like the Sixers?

What's so complicated about giving Harden, Embiid, and Tucker days off in the weeks leading up to the post season, not playing them more than 32-34 minutes a night, and especially pulling Harden from a game where he is clearly hurt but instead letting him go 2 OT's while dragging one leg around?

The idea is to be smart with minutes and nights off with a veteran group that has no need to "gain experience", but instead needs to be prepared for a hopefully long, grueling playoff run after a too-long season. It ain't rocket science.


We want the same thing, if my post doesn't make sense then you haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying all year.

You can rest star players and at the same time not TANK. That's what I'm addressing. I think Explosions mentioned a balancing act, that's better than outright rest, there's a balance that should be executed as far as minutes. We all want the same thing, but the implementation of that is mostly due to the MVP pursuit. The goal for the REGULAR SEASON (unfortunately) is to get Embiid the MVP. He deserves it, even if he doesn't.


I haven't been "paying attention" to what you've been saying anymore than you've been paying attention to what I've been saying. Get over yourself.

No one here is talking about "tanking". It's not complicated - play the veteran players against the better teams, stagger the days off against the lesser teams, and absolutely do not play Harden, Embiid, or Tucker on both ends of BtB's. Minutes should be maxed out at 32-34 in any game the last couple of weeks before the post season.

And if there is any injury or discomfort, shut them down. Playing Harden after he aggravated his injury in a regular season game against f***king Chicago was asinine beyond all possible reason.

That's not tanking, it's being smart and focusing on the big prize instead of chasing an extra home game and padding a W-L record. As far as Embiid's MVP chase, if his primary focus is a media-voted award, then his priorities might be a bit warped.


I'm sorry if I offended you. I said we want the same thing twice.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#144 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:53 pm

Embiid's MVP quest is the most important thing, winning the title comes second, because Embiid IS Philadelphia, he transcends the team and anything.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#145 » by mjkvol » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:27 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Embiid's MVP quest is the most important thing, winning the title comes second, because Embiid IS Philadelphia, he transcends the team and anything.


Going against the well advised idea of not feeding a troll, I'll ask what is a rhetorical question - do you ever tire of sounding like a complete fool who amuses no one?
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#146 » by GoSixersBro » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:29 pm

Well he's right in some regards that a sect of Philly fans do hang banners for happenings that aren't titles because how starved a fanbase we had been before the 08 Phils. But time to shed that mentality.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#147 » by mjkvol » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:40 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Well he's right in some regards that a sect of Philly fans do hang banners for happenings that aren't titles because how starved a fanbase we had been before the 08 Phils. But time to shed that mentality.


Been a Philly sports fan my entire life, and I never had the 'starved' mentality of 'win titles or what's the point of caring?' that I see and hear in so many fans today. Maybe it's the idea that the scarcity of championships made those of the '80 Phils and '83 Sixers such special memories for me as a fan, but I wouldn't trade the ups and downs of being a Philly sports fan for anything else.

I grew up hearing arrogant Giant and Yankee fans 'counting' championships, no joy but just expectations of championship or bust, and believing the world revolved around those teams. Funny, but during the Parcells years where they won two SB's, it killed them that Buddy Ryan owned Parcells and kicked his ass every year - I would get the inevitable "how many you got?", but it drove them insane that the Eagles beat those Giant teams routinely. I wouldn't trade those years for anything, and the same with the Sixers teams from '77-'83.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#148 » by GoSixersBro » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:27 pm

mjkvol wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Well he's right in some regards that a sect of Philly fans do hang banners for happenings that aren't titles because how starved a fanbase we had been before the 08 Phils. But time to shed that mentality.


Been a Philly sports fan my entire life, and I never had the 'starved' mentality of 'win titles or what's the point of caring?' that I see and hear in so many fans today. Maybe it's the idea that the scarcity of championships made those of the '80 Phils and '83 Sixers such special memories for me as a fan, but I wouldn't trade the ups and downs of being a Philly sports fan for anything else.

I grew up hearing arrogant Giant and Yankee fans 'counting' championships, no joy but just expectations of championship or bust, and believing the world revolved around those teams. Funny, but during the Parcells years where they won two SB's, it killed them that Buddy Ryan owned Parcells and kicked his ass every year - I would get the inevitable "how many you got?", but it drove them insane that the Eagles beat those Giant teams routinely. I wouldn't trade those years for anything, and the same with the Sixers teams from '77-'83.


Well that's the divide in generations of Philly fans because being born in 1990 and only starting to be heavily invested in the teams from about age 10, Philly sports has been mostly crushing disappointment, especially when your favorite team of the 4 is the Sixers :(
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#149 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:28 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Embiid's MVP quest is the most important thing, winning the title comes second, because Embiid IS Philadelphia, he transcends the team and anything.


Going against the well advised idea of not feeding a troll, I'll ask what is a rhetorical question - do you ever tire of sounding like a complete fool who amuses no one?


Hey I was serious in my post, I care more about Embiid's MVP than Sixers winning the title, though the latter is obviously still very important to me, as Embiid's legacy would be enhanced obviously.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#150 » by mjkvol » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:28 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Well he's right in some regards that a sect of Philly fans do hang banners for happenings that aren't titles because how starved a fanbase we had been before the 08 Phils. But time to shed that mentality.


Been a Philly sports fan my entire life, and I never had the 'starved' mentality of 'win titles or what's the point of caring?' that I see and hear in so many fans today. Maybe it's the idea that the scarcity of championships made those of the '80 Phils and '83 Sixers such special memories for me as a fan, but I wouldn't trade the ups and downs of being a Philly sports fan for anything else.

I grew up hearing arrogant Giant and Yankee fans 'counting' championships, no joy but just expectations of championship or bust, and believing the world revolved around those teams. Funny, but during the Parcells years where they won two SB's, it killed them that Buddy Ryan owned Parcells and kicked his ass every year - I would get the inevitable "how many you got?", but it drove them insane that the Eagles beat those Giant teams routinely. I wouldn't trade those years for anything, and the same with the Sixers teams from '77-'83.


Well that's the divide in generations of Philly fans because being born in 1990 and only starting to be heavily invested in the teams from about age 10, Philly sports has been mostly crushing disappointment, especially when your favorite team of the 4 is the Sixers :(


You kidding? I could rattle off crushing disappointments throughout the '70's, '80's, and '90's for all four teams. I just never remember the mentality of 'quitting' or 'switching' teams before the late '90's / early '00's. Maybe it has as much to do with amount of games on TV and seeing every team routinely, and fantasy leagues as well. When I grew up in south Jersey, everyone was 'four for four', but it hasn't been like that in a while.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#151 » by GoSixersBro » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:07 pm

mjkvol wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Been a Philly sports fan my entire life, and I never had the 'starved' mentality of 'win titles or what's the point of caring?' that I see and hear in so many fans today. Maybe it's the idea that the scarcity of championships made those of the '80 Phils and '83 Sixers such special memories for me as a fan, but I wouldn't trade the ups and downs of being a Philly sports fan for anything else.

I grew up hearing arrogant Giant and Yankee fans 'counting' championships, no joy but just expectations of championship or bust, and believing the world revolved around those teams. Funny, but during the Parcells years where they won two SB's, it killed them that Buddy Ryan owned Parcells and kicked his ass every year - I would get the inevitable "how many you got?", but it drove them insane that the Eagles beat those Giant teams routinely. I wouldn't trade those years for anything, and the same with the Sixers teams from '77-'83.


Well that's the divide in generations of Philly fans because being born in 1990 and only starting to be heavily invested in the teams from about age 10, Philly sports has been mostly crushing disappointment, especially when your favorite team of the 4 is the Sixers :(


You kidding? I could rattle off crushing disappointments throughout the '70's, '80's, and '90's for all four teams. I just never remember the mentality of 'quitting' or 'switching' teams before the late '90's / early '00's. Maybe it has as much to do with amount of games on TV and seeing every team routinely, and fantasy leagues as well. When I grew up in south Jersey, everyone was 'four for four', but it hasn't been like that in a while.


Haha I totally understand the Philly "curse" extends well before 1990. My point was that at least you got to witness titles in the 80's, but for me, before 2008 I was just living in a state of "we never are gonna see a title" lol. And tbh the Phils' WS didn't do much for me bc I'm not a big baseball fan. I was just used to the Sixers being a 40-win, 1st round exit squad from 2002-2012. Meanwhile in the same stretch, the Flyers and Eagles were almost always competitive, but never were able to get over the hump and win it all.

My original post was just saying it's silly to get overly excited over an Embiid MVP. Kind of how while growing up we boasted about Iverson's MVP/the Game 1 win over the Lakers despite losing in 5. I was part of that too, and fawned over that storybook ride that didn't even finish with the happy ending.

I'll always be an invested fan, but I'm at the point of my life that I've invested plenty of time/emotion into the Sixers that anything less than a championship really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Game 71: 76ers vs Bulls - Mar 20th 7:00pm ET 

Post#152 » by mjkvol » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:31 pm

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GoSixersBro wrote:
Well that's the divide in generations of Philly fans because being born in 1990 and only starting to be heavily invested in the teams from about age 10, Philly sports has been mostly crushing disappointment, especially when your favorite team of the 4 is the Sixers :(


You kidding? I could rattle off crushing disappointments throughout the '70's, '80's, and '90's for all four teams. I just never remember the mentality of 'quitting' or 'switching' teams before the late '90's / early '00's. Maybe it has as much to do with amount of games on TV and seeing every team routinely, and fantasy leagues as well. When I grew up in south Jersey, everyone was 'four for four', but it hasn't been like that in a while.


Haha I totally understand the Philly "curse" extends well before 1990. My point was that at least you got to witness titles in the 80's, but for me, before 2008 I was just living in a state of "we never are gonna see a title" lol. And tbh the Phils' WS didn't do much for me bc I'm not a big baseball fan. I was just used to the Sixers being a 40-win, 1st round exit squad from 2002-2012. Meanwhile in the same stretch, the Flyers and Eagles were almost always competitive, but never were able to get over the hump and win it all.

My original post was just saying it's silly to get overly excited over an Embiid MVP. Kind of how while growing up we boasted about Iverson's MVP/the Game 1 win over the Lakers despite losing in 5. I was part of that too, and fawned over that storybook ride that didn't even finish with the happy ending.

I'll always be an invested fan, but I'm at the point of my life that I've invested plenty of time/emotion into the Sixers that anything less than a championship really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.


Oh, I'm at least 25 years beyond living and dying with this stuff any more, from around the time that big money and the influx of all the rule changes started ruining pretty much all the sports, but particularly football and basketball.

I used to watch every game and all the media garbage throughout the week, raging on sports radio, etc. I haven't listened to sports radio or watched any sports media aside from games in about 15 years, and I recently cut the cord so I haven't seen a Sixer game live this season (missing Kate has been a relief lol), but I'll probably pick up a streaming service like Sling for the playoffs.

U of Tennessee football and hoops are my sports passions. It's a lot more fun pulling for college kids than the mercenaries that pro athletes have become, but 'college' sports are quickly headed in that direction as well. I'd love to see the Sixers win a title, but I don't see it happening as long as this coach is permitted to stay.
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