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Post#1961 » by youngcrev » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:45 pm

Well, that puts a monkey wrench in the Lowry hope.

I sure hope the heat don't end up with a legit difference maker like Dame now.
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Post#1962 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:49 pm

Washington waives CP3 I'm assuming

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Post#1963 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:50 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Washington waives CP3 I'm assuming

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Post#1964 » by youngcrev » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:50 pm

Wizards get a guy they're gonna buy out, some seconds, and some future pick swaps.

Even more underwhelming than anticipated.
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Post#1965 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:53 pm

This has to be the last no trade clause ever given to a player
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Post#1966 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:59 pm

IDK why everyone suddenly wants Lowry on this team. We need to be getting younger and bigger not older and smaller. His age and size next to Maxey would more than offset any positives he provides.
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Post#1967 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm

FireMorey wrote:Beal to the Suns. So we know one time who won’t be winning a title next season.


Among Beal, Booker and KD, there won't be enough balls to go around. Dumb move by Phoenix unless they plan on converting Beal or Booker to PG or making another move for a PG.
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Post#1968 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:26 pm

Embiid P wrote:IDK why everyone suddenly wants Lowry on this team. We need to be getting younger and bigger not older and smaller. His age and size next to Maxey would more than offset any positives he provides.

People wanted him off the bench on a minimum contact after a buy out. Not next to maxey
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Post#1970 » by mjkvol » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:44 pm

sixers hoops wrote:Can the Sixers win a title next year? Sure. I didn’t think Denver had much of a shot this year. I didn’t think the Bucks or Raptors had greats chances a few years back, so the odds going into the seasons don’t matter very much.

We are currently viewed as third in the East and sixth in the league. However, I just don’t know that we have the personnel to win big playoff games with this roster. Forget conference finals or finals, they haven’t been able to win key games in the second round.

Can Nick Nurse turn roughly the same roster into a champion? My guess is no, but this might be the first time Embiid and company have a coach who is known more for scheming his team to victories as a tactician. Maybe we won’t have the late-game collapses if our coach implements a strategy that puts us in a better position for success.


To me the coaching change will be the single most impactful move of the off season, and I think a run it back has a legitimate shot at competing for a championship due to that more than anything else they may or may not do. Also, there is no juggernaut out there to fear, and there is not a whole lot separating the top 7-8 teams.
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Post#1971 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:55 pm

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Embiid P wrote:IDK why everyone suddenly wants Lowry on this team. We need to be getting younger and bigger not older and smaller. His age and size next to Maxey would more than offset any positives he provides.

People wanted him off the bench on a minimum contact after a buy out. Not next to maxey


So they basically want him as a Udonis Haslem type of guy who won't play much but is good in the locker room? I thought that's what they brought in Tucker for.

How many minutes would he play? I expect Maxey to play at least 36 mpg which would leave Lowry at 10-12 mpg tops. Again, I'd rather reserve the roster spot for someone bigger younger and more athletic who can play with Maxey.

Caruso would be my ideal backup PG next to Maxey if he is attainable.
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Post#1972 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:03 pm

Beal’s contract basically made him a salary dump and honestly it was destined from the moment they kept him and signed his not close to super max game yo that super max deal.
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Post#1973 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:15 pm

BTW love it or hate it and I may be stating the obvious here, but the Beal deal dramatically increases the chances of Harden coming back since the Suns were reportedly a contender for him.
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Post#1974 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:19 pm

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76ciology wrote:What do we do to Tucker? If Nurse implements more ball and player movement, I can’t see him starting because he can’t shoot 3s other than corner 3s, he’s not a good cutter, he’s not a lob option and he is not good at finishing around the rim.


I don't see how we move him without it being part of a larger deal to take a bad contract back.

That is why I would have been adverse to Beal. You are going to have to find a star or quasi star that is kind of overpaid then include Harris expiring and Tucker money inside the deal.

I just don't see how we can justify giving up any of our limited assets in a one-off deal to move Tucker. He isn't going to open up cap room. The other issue is if Nurse does plan on reducing his role we need to move him now because his value will only continue to further decline to the point he'd probably have to get bought out.

I also don't know if at this point whether he'd accept a trade to a non-contending team. Maybe you could sucker a team like the Kings into his leadership and get someone like Malik Monk for him I dunno


I don't think moving Tucker is the answer without taking back another bad contract in return. They need to move Harris for a legit starting SF let Reed start at PF and move Tucker to the bench. Let Niang walk and sign a backup C.
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Post#1975 » by the_process » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:20 pm

Skates wrote:Beal’s contract basically made him a salary dump and honestly it was destined from the moment they kept him and signed his not close to super max game yo that super max deal.


Also I think Beal must've preferred PHX.
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Post#1976 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:29 pm

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Skates wrote:Beal’s contract basically made him a salary dump and honestly it was destined from the moment they kept him and signed his not close to super max game yo that super max deal.


Also I think Beal must've preferred PHX.


Suns literally going all in as they will be severely limited once the full effect of the CBA kicks in the season after next and with even less picks and swaps to move than the Sixers have.
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Post#1977 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:59 pm

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sixers hoops wrote:Can the Sixers win a title next year? Sure. I didn’t think Denver had much of a shot this year. I didn’t think the Bucks or Raptors had greats chances a few years back, so the odds going into the seasons don’t matter very much.

We are currently viewed as third in the East and sixth in the league. However, I just don’t know that we have the personnel to win big playoff games with this roster. Forget conference finals or finals, they haven’t been able to win key games in the second round.

Can Nick Nurse turn roughly the same roster into a champion? My guess is no, but this might be the first time Embiid and company have a coach who is known more for scheming his team to victories as a tactician. Maybe we won’t have the late-game collapses if our coach implements a strategy that puts us in a better position for success.


To me the coaching change will be the single most impactful move of the off season, and I think a run it back has a legitimate shot at competing for a championship due to that more than anything else they may or may not do. Also, there is no juggernaut out there to fear, and there is not a whole lot separating the top 7-8 teams.

This fanbase is delusional. We’re coming off another playoff meltdown, and people are thinking a coach who was just fired himself is the savior lol. Denver is clearly a lot better than us. Boston has owned us for the past 6-7 years lol. We haven’t proven we can beat the Heat in a series either. Also can’t rule out Milwaukee and Phoenix as they have better top end talent than we do. If no major changes are made this team will be legit contenders, how exactly? Sure they might win 50+ games in the regular season, but there is nothing there to show me it won’t just be more of the same in May.
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Post#1978 » by Embiid P » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:26 pm

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sixers hoops wrote:Can the Sixers win a title next year? Sure. I didn’t think Denver had much of a shot this year. I didn’t think the Bucks or Raptors had greats chances a few years back, so the odds going into the seasons don’t matter very much.

We are currently viewed as third in the East and sixth in the league. However, I just don’t know that we have the personnel to win big playoff games with this roster. Forget conference finals or finals, they haven’t been able to win key games in the second round.

Can Nick Nurse turn roughly the same roster into a champion? My guess is no, but this might be the first time Embiid and company have a coach who is known more for scheming his team to victories as a tactician. Maybe we won’t have the late-game collapses if our coach implements a strategy that puts us in a better position for success.


To me the coaching change will be the single most impactful move of the off season, and I think a run it back has a legitimate shot at competing for a championship due to that more than anything else they may or may not do. Also, there is no juggernaut out there to fear, and there is not a whole lot separating the top 7-8 teams.

This fanbase is delusional. We’re coming off another playoff meltdown, and people are thinking a coach who was just fired himself is the savior lol. Denver is clearly a lot better than us. Boston has owned us for the past 6-7 years lol. We haven’t proven we can beat the Heat in a series either. Also can’t rule out Milwaukee and Phoenix as they have better top end talent than we do. If no major changes are made this team will be legit contenders, how exactly? Sure they might win 50+ games in the regular season, but there is nothing there to show me it won’t just be more of the same in May.


He never once stated that the coach was the ONLY problem with this team, but it was definitely a MAJOR one.

Since it appears that both Embiid and Harden will be returning, the only real move left is to trade Harris for better fitting pieces.
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Post#1979 » by Eyeamok » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:44 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:Can the Sixers win a title next year? Sure. I didn’t think Denver had much of a shot this year. I didn’t think the Bucks or Raptors had greats chances a few years back, so the odds going into the seasons don’t matter very much.

We are currently viewed as third in the East and sixth in the league. However, I just don’t know that we have the personnel to win big playoff games with this roster. Forget conference finals or finals, they haven’t been able to win key games in the second round.

Can Nick Nurse turn roughly the same roster into a champion? My guess is no, but this might be the first time Embiid and company have a coach who is known more for scheming his team to victories as a tactician. Maybe we won’t have the late-game collapses if our coach implements a strategy that puts us in a better position for success.


To me the coaching change will be the single most impactful move of the off season, and I think a run it back has a legitimate shot at competing for a championship due to that more than anything else they may or may not do. Also, there is no juggernaut out there to fear, and there is not a whole lot separating the top 7-8 teams.

This fanbase is delusional. We’re coming off another playoff meltdown, and people are thinking a coach who was just fired himself is the savior lol. Denver is clearly a lot better than us. Boston has owned us for the past 6-7 years lol. We haven’t proven we can beat the Heat in a series either. Also can’t rule out Milwaukee and Phoenix as they have better top end talent than we do. If no major changes are made this team will be legit contenders, how exactly? Sure they might win 50+ games in the regular season, but there is nothing there to show me it won’t just be more of the same in May.



Better playoff coaching has this team beating Atlanta and not blowing leads.
Better playoff coaching does not have Embiid on the court so he can get his face fractured in a win against the Raptors when the game was already decided.
Better coaching finds a way to win when we are up against the Celtics.
Better coaching at least gets the team motivated to go out on their shield against the Celtics this year.

And I won't even be a little bit surprised if you see significant improvement from the bench squad. Because the coach will allow some player to play more. Really last season we were down Maxey, Embiid and Harden for long stretches and the team had a winning record. When the big 3 came back it was next to impossible to get the B-team guys any significant minutes going forward. The bench was primed but not used. Bad coaching.
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