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Player Comparison: Thad vs. Posey?

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Post#21 » by SendEm » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:52 pm

I don't see Thad being a Shawn Merion, he lacks the explosion. Merion has been an alley oop dunk or put back dunk waiting to happen since he's been in the league. Thad has more potential to be a Cedric Ceballos.
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Post#22 » by UptownPhilly » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:00 pm

SendEm wrote:I don't see Thad being a Shawn Merion, he lacks the explosion. Merion has been an alley oop dunk or put back dunk waiting to happen since he's been in the league.


I agree, Thad isn't explosive enough to be like Marion. The Matrix is very quick, hence the nickname.

Thaddeus may grow to be in a class of his own.
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Post#23 » by tk76 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:11 pm

I also agree, quickness and explosiveness are two different things (athough some players have both.)

Carter>Iguodala>Young in explosiveness- but Young is very quick and has more length than Iguodala (3" more reach.)

Young is also more of a long strider which means he should be able to cover a lot of distance off his first step and covers the length of the floor effortlessly. This can be as improtant of an athletic trait as explosiveness.

Thad also is more of a quick leaper than an explosive one- sort of like how Sam, Camby and Bosh are very quick of their feet (and recovers to jump a second time) but neither are explosive like Marion, Smith and Howard.
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Post#24 » by Tha King » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:14 pm

you cant really compare Young to anyone right now. He is only 19, you dont know where his game will end up. Right now most of you are comparing 19 year old Young to prime Prince, Jamison, Marion, etc. At the same age Young's offensive game was more advanced then all three( Jamison struggled early on at unc). Last year was his first year on the perimeter, and watching tons of Gt games, he did almost all of his scoring outside. His three point shot needs work, but his midrange jumper is very good.
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Post#25 » by Sixerscan » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:43 pm

SendEm wrote:I don't see Thad being a Shawn Merion, he lacks the explosion. Merion has been an alley oop dunk or put back dunk waiting to happen since he's been in the league. Thad has more potential to be a Cedric Ceballos.

I can see it. Ced was great at those garbage points Thad always seems to get. Thad's a little bigger though.
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Post#26 » by SendEm » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:49 pm

If Thad could be a Ceddy Ceballos and Jason Smith a poor man's Tom Chambers we would be set.
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Post#27 » by tk76 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:08 pm

SendEm wrote:If Thad could be a Ceddy Ceballos and Jason Smith a poor man's Tom Chambers we would be set.


I can see the Ced comparison, but Smith is looking to be a Very poor and destitute man's Chambers. They are both white, tall and athletic, and that's about all.

Smith needs to decide this summer either to grow longer arms or change his release point (and stop shooting on the way down.) I like his energy, but he is has the lowest release pint I have ever seen for a seven footer.

Iguodala's slow jumper has a release point about 2 ft higher than Smith. Sam's release is about 3 ft higher. I would say Smith is easier to block in the post than Miller.
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Post#28 » by SendEm » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:21 pm

LOL @ grow longer arms.

Smith is young enough that he can tweak his jump shot to shoot on the way up and come out better because of it instead of have it ruin his game.

But either way I think that Smith has a chance to have an automatic non three point jumpshop in the very near future. He doesn't have the negative of having extra long arms that are a little more difficult to get a consistent shooting stroke out of. He has the arms of a point guard on a centers body. LMAO. I can see it now, if his shot isn't batted into the 2nd row in the crowd, it's going in for 2.
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Post#29 » by dbodner » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:27 pm

Smith needs to decide this summer either to grow longer arms or change his release point (and stop shooting on the way down.) I like his energy, but he is has the lowest release pint I have ever seen for a seven footer.


Yup. I've been saying that ever since summer league. Unfortunately I don't think that's really something you can reliably change at this point.
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Post#30 » by freshie2 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:31 pm

SendEm wrote:If Thad could be a Ceddy Ceballos and Jason Smith a poor man's Tom Chambers we would be set.


I could see this, although I hope that Thad will be better overall than Ced was...he was kind of a one trick pony that never developed an outside game. Smith doesn't have the upside of Chambers, but I could see him as a 15/8 type player if he gets consistent time. The open jumper is fine, but he does have a tendancy to get his jumper blocked by longer players...that's the only big issue I have with him at this point.
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Post#31 » by sec-106 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:54 pm

I really love watching Thad.

He may not have the same skills as Prince, but at least we finally have someone who can guard Prince.
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Post#32 » by LieCheatSteal » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:29 pm

I like that Thaddeus Young patterns his game after Prince. Prince does a little bit of everything, passes, scores, rebounds and plays defense. He's a good character player who plays hard on every play. Good player to pattern yourself after. Just for comparison sakes, Charlie Villanueva patterns himselft after Lamar Odom, whose, albeit a good basketball player, is soft, lazy, low IQ and not playing to his potential. Sounds like Charlie too, right?
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Post#33 » by Sixercise » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:40 pm

LieCheatSteal wrote:Just for comparison sakes, Charlie Villanueva patterns himselft after Lamar Odom, whose, albeit a good basketball player, is soft, lazy, low IQ and not playing to his potential. Sounds like Charlie too, right?



Well, Charlie is more like a Van Horn/Tim Thomas type of forward: great shooting range but are turnstiles on D. Odom is more like Kukoc without the consistent jumper.
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Post#34 » by Sixercise » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:51 pm

Tha King wrote:you cant really compare Young to anyone right now. He is only 19, you dont know where his game will end up. Right now most of you are comparing 19 year old Young to prime Prince, Jamison, Marion, etc. At the same age Young's offensive game was more advanced then all three( Jamison struggled early on at unc). Last year was his first year on the perimeter, and watching tons of Gt games, he did almost all of his scoring outside. His three point shot needs work, but his midrange jumper is very good.



I agree that right now we don't know who to really compare Thad to (although the Ced Caballos comparison was pretty good). However, considering that he's only 19, it's just like you said: The sky's the limit for him.

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