Hallejuiah!!! I hope that article up top is true about Brand

Post #41 » by **The Guilty Party** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 8:57 pm

Supposedly they offered him $12MIL per and he turned it down in October. If they can get him for that or less, I think they'll match. Of course, if Emeka wants out and lets them know it... perhaps they would be willing to do a sign and trade if someone wanted to max him out.

Is Emeka a max player? I don't think so. He's a really solid rebounder and defender but that's not what this team needs next to Sam which is why I said that Zach Randolph could be an option. I'm starting to really believe that we're better off going after cheaper players like Charlie V or Ty Thomas for next season rather than dump a ton of cash in Okafor, Randolph, or Odom.

By getting Villanueva or Thomas, we could plug them into our system and try them out at PF next season. If we see that they don't fit, we would still have our cap flexibility plus Andre Miller's expiring contract to make a move should a "sure thing" PF become available during the season or next summer.

Post #42 » by **tk76** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:19 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:If this article does hold true and Brand does not opt-out, are we all agree that Emeka Okafor should be the primary target? Even if he is, I believe the max we could offer him is 5 years/$55MIL which isn't going to get the job done so it would have to be a sign and trade.

We can offer about 5yr/66M.

This assumes a 1st year salary of 10.5M, with the max 12.5% raise each year. I doubt that is quite enough to get the players we want, but it is a lot.

We need a player who wants to come here enough to pressure their club into a sign and trade (by threatening to sign a 1 year tender and become a UFA next year.) Players/agents have leverage if they want to use it.

IggyTheBEaST · Post #43 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:19 pm

I love TT skillset but his attitude worries me. CV would be welcome on this team as far as im concerned.

Post #44 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:19 am

IggyTheBEaST wrote:I love TT skillset but his attitude worries me. CV would be welcome on this team as far as im concerned.

I would be concerned with TT's attitude if it wasn't for the fact that just about everyone on his team has publicly gone off that coach and/or front office. TT's only incident this season was that he missed a practice. He didn't publicly speak about the coach or anyone else and apparently felt extremely frustrated by the situation in Chicago and decided he was better off staying away from the gym that day.

Is that a good thing? No, but to me... that's better than what Noah, Duhon, Gray, and others have done. It is also worth noting that Paxson said that the main cause for concern about Thomas missing practice was that he's there early every day so it was way out of the norm.

I still have faith that that if Thomas (and half of the Chicago roster) were moved to a team with a functional front office and coaching staff that he could develop into the stud PF that a lot of people believe he can become.

freshie2 · Post #45 » by **freshie2** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:07 am

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/players/p ... yerId=2427

I would welcome Brand, but this is our guy for the short and long term. Put him next to Sammy, and off we go.

Post #46 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:22 am

What part of him NOT opting out have you missed?

sixerguy · Post #47 » by **sixerguy** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:25 am

can someone let me know how Okafor is any different than Brendon Haywood? I mean Im looking at the numbers and the size and the age and I don't see a difference. Ok maybe a slight difference just one get paid 4 million and the other is asking for 12-15.

It must be the "potential thing."

Post #48 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:36 am

tao_jin wrote:can someone let me know how Okafor is any different than Brendon Haywood? I mean Im looking at the numbers and the size and the age and I don't see a difference.

Really?

sixerguy · Post #49 » by **sixerguy** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:12 am

read the next sentence nitpicker

Post #50 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:29 am

3 points and 3 rebounds is more than a slight difference

And that's not even mentioning the fact that Haywood's numbers aren't exactly in line with his career.

sixerguy · Post #51 » by **sixerguy** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:32 am

so is 7 mins

Post #52 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:38 am

tao_jin wrote:so is 7 mins

Okafor per 36 minutes- 14.7/11.5
Haywood per 36 minutes- 13.7/9.2

Career per 36 minutes
Okafor 14.9/11.3
Haywood- 11.4/9.0

sixerguy · Post #53 » by **sixerguy** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:00 am

thanks for doing the research, it just makes my 'overall' point that much stronger.

you can add in the ft% at your leisure

ProcessDoctor · Post #54 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:20 am

Not a bad night for Brand:

19 points on 50% shooting, 8 rebounds, 3-4 FTs, and 4 blocked shots. Clippers still got killed by Houston though.

freshie2 · Post #55 » by **freshie2** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:29 am

The Guilty Party wrote:What part of him NOT opting out have you missed?

Biedrens is an RFA, not a player's option UFA.