Portland seeking experience ... (Andre Miller)?

[arjwdotcom]

While I think Miller would like to go to Portland (solid bigs there, suitable coaching staff); his value for the Sixers might be higher than what Portland will want to give. The Sixers would have to pick up a solid backup/starter at the point, and then they would be placing AI plus another youthier (ha) player in a leadership position. Unless I am missing something, we don't have that aspect in anyone currently on the roster else Miller would have already been gone.

[carltong23]

How about instead of dealing with Portland we deal with the LA Clippers. They need a veteran point gaurd to team with Brand, Kaman, & Thorton so that they can get back into the playoffs. Heres my trade proposal(and I preference this with us trading Utah's 09 pick for Portlands #13 pick):

LA Clippers get:

Andre Miller
Portland's #13 pick
Sixers #16 pick

Philly gets:

Corey Maggette(must not opt out)
Brevin Knight(to match salaries)
Clippers #6 pick

With the Clippers pick we take Donte Greene. Then we use our cap space and a conditional future 1st round pick to take TJ Ford off of Toronto's hands. Our team would look like this:

Ford
Iguodala
Maggette
Greene
Dalembert

Bench:
Williams
Carney
Young
Evans
Smith

How about it?

[ahwi_quacoe]

Andre Miller is THE reason why we are playing well, No one else is as important. Decision making; knowing when to give it to Iguodala or take on the defense himself makes him invaluable. We trade him and we are back to square one. Keep him Trade Iguodala if need be.

[freshie2]

I agree he's a huge part of the success, but when they look at building a championship team, will he be as valuable to the team as he is now? It's a tough decision with Miller, and with Iguodala...if either can bring back multiple players and a PF, you'd have to consider it.

[Wilfried]

Andre Miller for the 13th pick seems like pretty even value to me... We all know Andre Miller is not the long-term solution at PG. I say flip him to POR for #13.

I would fire YOU immediately

[Butter]

What would it actually take to do this deal? I think any deal with the Blazers, the Sixers would probably ask for either Webster or Outlaw. Outlaw seems like a bit of duplication of Thadeus Young.

The Blazers do have quite a few PG's on their roster. Jarrett Jack could easily be included. I'd be really hesitant to give up Blake because of his perimeter shooting, but a combo of Jack/Blake would give the Sixers a pretty solid duo.

Also, is Iguodala a straight SF, or can be play SG?

[eyeatoma]

^^He plays SG just as well...

[Red Robot]

Miller would be a one-year rental because he is much older than the Blazers' core and Portland is planning for cap space next summer. Miller would be a huge help next year, so the Blazers would love to exchange Miller's expiring for LaFrentz's. However, because he's not in the long-term plans, I can't really see Portland including much in the way of young players. I'm guessing that whatever the Blazers offer wouldn't be enough.

Miler would make Jack expendable, so he could be included. Maybe one of Rodriguez or the draft pick. I don't think the Blazers would want to part with Outlaw, Webster, Frye, or Blake in this deal, but it's possible.

Portland might like: Miller + Filler = LaFrentz + Jack + Draft Pick

Another possibility--one I'm not sure Portland would like--is:
Miller = Blake + Jack + (Frye or Webster)

[Butter]

Miller would be a one-year rental because he is much older than the Blazers' core and Portland is planning for cap space next summer. Miller would be a huge help next year, so the Blazers would love to exchange Miller's expiring for LaFrentz's. However, because he's not in the long-term plans, I can't really see Portland including much in the way of young players. I'm guessing that whatever the Blazers offer wouldn't be enough.

Miler would make Jack expendable, so he could be included. Maybe one of Rodriguez or the draft pick. I don't think the Blazers would want to part with Outlaw, Webster, Frye, or Blake in this deal, but it's possible.

Portland might like: Miller + Filler = LaFrentz + Jack + Draft Pick

Another possibility--one I'm not sure Portland would like--is:
Miller = Blake + Jack + (Frye or Webster)

Red Robot, I think you are spot on about the primary pieces that would have to be involved. The Blazers GM feels they very close to championship contention, within a few years. A player lihe Miller could help them turn the corner in the short run, and them transition a young star PG for that longer championship run.

I do agree that they'd have to extend Miller though.

From Philly's perspective, I think the Blazers would give up one of Webster or Outlaw, Jack, maybe Blake, and some other fringe players. I don't know how much it would effect things, but the Blazers have 2 high second round picks, Josh McRoberts, and Joel Freeland (a PF bruiser from Europe).

I think there is definitely the potential for some kind of deal between these two teams.

[AZ BLAZER]

Miller will be a free agent when Portland has their cap space. If he is considered too old to be part of the core now, and will be a year from now, why give up players like Webster, Outlaw or a lottery pick for him when you can just make a run at him in free agency? At least then he will cost half of what he is making now and you keep your other assets.

[freshie2]

From a selfish/biased view, I would think Frye would need to be part of the deal, then I would think Webster and one of the young PGs. Problem is, I don't know if the $'s work in that scenario, in which case you have to add some other players to make things work...maybe Willie Green and Raef Lafrentz. Portland has a lot of young chips to deal, so they may give up a bit more to get a higher end PG, even if he's 32. Miller is a big upgrade over what they currently have, and would help any of the young PGs develop.

[chuckerz]

why trade to rebuild when philly's in the playoffs and miller was a big factor in the getting them there

[c-mac 4.35]

How do you guys feal about Webster... How would you think the sixers would utilize him???

[tester551]

How do you guys feal about Webster... How would you think the sixers would utilize him???

I personally want to keep Webster in Portland and would not include him in a deal to Philly. If Webster can get his handle down and has more confidence in driving to the basket - I think he could be lethal in Portland....

If Philly would deal Miller for Reaf + #13 + #34 (or Sergio) then I think a deal could be made.

[freshie2]

Then I don't think a deal could be made...I don't think the general idea of a deal between the teams is crazy, but Miller for draft picks and Raef is a bit silly.

[c-mac 4.35]

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I personally want to keep Webster in Portland and would not include him in a deal to Philly. If Webster can get his handle down and has more confidence in driving to the basket - I think he could be lethal in Portland....

If Philly would deal Miller for Reaf + #13 + #34 (or Sergio) then I think a deal could be made.

Like i said in the portland forum i've known him since i was 10... I know that he loves to play in Portland but i cant stand the way they utilize him their!!! He actually says some games he's told to stand in the corner and shoot 3's! He is way better off when he is attacking and slashing to the hoop!