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Post#81 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:42 pm

It's also because George Karl insists on starting Iverson at the 2 guard spot where he's less effective. Iverson has matured alot since his Philly days. Averaging well over 7 assists last year at the 2 guard spot. I only can imagine how much better the Nuggets would have been offensively if Iverson were the 1 guard.

The Nuggets need A Tayshaun Prince type of wing man. Carmelo Anthony will never translate into the complete player that he needs to be in order for the Nuggets to win a championship.

Melo for Prince+ will make them better.
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Re: Brand Did Opt Out! 

Post#82 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Tue Jul 1, 2008 3:51 pm

Wait....Dedictaed....so every coach Iverson has played for since college has just "missed" what you have so clearly seen? Somehow nobody has clued into this magic bullet of Iverson playing the one? Even in the face of the fact that his most successful season where he WON THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE was playing next to a pass-first PG who wouldn't couldn't and SHOULDN'T score it under any circumstances?

How is it possible that you have discovered this fact where nobody else can?
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Post#83 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Jul 1, 2008 4:22 pm

lets end the ivewrsont alk. this thread is about brand. everyone knows iverson ha sbeen misused thoughtrout his career and in denver they continue to do so. its a shame that philly wasted such a monumental talent but its not our problem anymore. end of story. lets move on. BRAND
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Post#84 » by Phillyboy » Tue Jul 1, 2008 4:38 pm

Johnny Broad-Street wrote:Wait....Dedictaed....so every coach Iverson has played for since college has just "missed" what you have so clearly seen? Somehow nobody has clued into this magic bullet of Iverson playing the one? Even in the face of the fact that his most successful season where he WON THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE was playing next to a pass-first PG who wouldn't couldn't and SHOULDN'T score it under any circumstances?

How is it possible that you have discovered this fact where nobody else can?


JBS- We agree on Iverson (probably a lot more than a single thread can uncover) but as Iggy suggests let's talk about Brand. The last thread I hijacked ended up way off course.

BTW, your sig. Are you referring to Crosby's Theory of Zero Defects in Quality Management?
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Post#85 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue Jul 1, 2008 4:46 pm

Johnny Broad-Street wrote:Wait....Dedictaed....so every coach Iverson has played for since college has just "missed" what you have so clearly seen? Somehow nobody has clued into this magic bullet of Iverson playing the one? Even in the face of the fact that his most successful season where he WON THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE was playing next to a pass-first PG who wouldn't couldn't and SHOULDN'T score it under any circumstances?

How is it possible that you have discovered this fact where nobody else can?



The AS Game was in Philadelphia, we were the number 1 seed out east. We were the 2nd best team to the LA Lakers. Of course Iverson was going to get MVP that year. Not to discredit his great year. But David Stern for publicity sakes, made the most out of Philly, a legit market.

Actually, Larry Brown preaches a team-first game of unselfishness. So it's more of Eric Snow couldn't score. I'd have to look back in history, but I think Aaron Mckie was our 2nd leading scorer that year.

*Jim O'Brien noticed it and it's was in large part thanks to that, that we got into the playoffs. That 04-05 76ers squad lost alot of close games. I think if we were patient with Obie, we could've went places. Billy King's 2nd worst mistake was firing Jim O'Brien and bringing in Mo.

Mo's made the playoffs, now this is his next step:

For 82 games, coach a playoff team, lead them as far as humanly possible.
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Re: Brand Did Opt Out! 

Post#86 » by jmon » Tue Jul 1, 2008 6:20 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:We were the 2nd best team to the LA Lakers.


Sixers were 2nd best? Coulda fooled me. I had them at about 7th best from that year, where the first 6 were all in the best Western conference(can be proven) of the past couple decades. But keep defending Iverson, even though everyone that leaves his team does better once they are gone and were better before they came. Making up all these excuses for Iverson after this Nuggets debacle is shocking to me.
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Post#87 » by tk76 » Tue Jul 1, 2008 7:07 pm

[quote="Dedicated_76ers_fan"]What do the Heat have that the Clippers would want? Iquote]

I think it has something to do with the teams being in LA and Miami. also, Wade is a young proven superstar, something the Sixers do not have yet. Superstars make championships.
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Post#88 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue Jul 1, 2008 7:29 pm

jmon wrote:
Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:We were the 2nd best team to the LA Lakers.


Sixers were 2nd best? Coulda fooled me. I had them at about 7th best from that year, where the first 6 were all in the best Western conference(can be proven) of the past couple decades. But keep defending Iverson, even though everyone that leaves his team does better once they are gone and were better before they came. Making up all these excuses for Iverson after this Nuggets debacle is shocking to me.



Name one?

I'll do it for you, Larry Hughes and that's not even Hughes's fault. It's Browns for trying to turn him into a combo guard. Now, name another.
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Re: Brand Did Opt Out! 

Post#89 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:23 pm

Sorry guys...really didn't mean to derail the thread. I won't respond about the AI stuff.
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Post#90 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:50 am

With Baron Davis signing a deal that was pretty much close to Iguodala's turned down deal. I wonder how much cap space do the Clippers have? Is it legitimate enough like 8 million+ to attract Brand to accept the slight downpay. If not, then we still have a shot.

We have a better one if we get in a guy that's a proven winner. If we make a trade for a high caliber player. And that means having the balls to say sayonara to Andre Iguodala. Not to turn this into an Iggy thread, but I really couldn't care less. I think of Iguodala as a 2nd-3rd option that we already have in Andre Miller and that Maresssee Speights could one day become.

An Andre Iguodala+ filler deal for Tracy McGrady would be ideal for both sides. To Houston, Iggy is a young 24 yr old swingman that had 2 terrific seasons. Iguodala's weakness of being unable to break down defenses would be hidden completely by Yao attracting double-teams.

As for us, Tracy McGrady is a veteran 2 guard who can get to the basket and make plays. He's completely unselfish and relentless. McGrady's one of those stars that get underlooked because of the "new generation". Then, we'll sign Brand to the 12 million dollar deal.

Dalembert
Brand
Thad
McGrady
Miller.

This lineup is alot better then the current Houston Rockets lineup that won 16 consective games.
How you may ask? Simple. All 5 of these guys are capable of putting up double-figure pts. As with the Rockets, it was McGrady and Yao+ their forwards Luis Scola/Carl Landry.

With a strong lineup and equally as strong a bench(Speights/Carney/Green). This team puts up a fight with the Boston Celtics.

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