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How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions?

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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#21 » by yashi » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:29 pm

Starters
PG - Miller: 13 pt, 7.5 ast, 4 reb (35 minutes per game). Points down, assists up. This one should be a given.
SG - Iguodala: 16 pt, 5 reb, 6 ast (40 minutes per game). Points go down from less shot attempts, but shooting % goes back up towards 50% and assists go up as well. Iggy becomes one of the most efficient players in the league.
SF - Young: 12 pts, 5 reb, 54% (29 minutes per game). Stays an efficient player who lets the game come to him and doesn't force anything for at least 1 more year.
PF - Brand: 19 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (37 minutes per game). Numbers slightly lower than career averages from playing with better talent now.
C - Dalembert: 8 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (33 minutes per game). Points and rebounds slightly down due to playing with a stud next to him.

Bench
Lou: 12 pts.
Green: 9 pts.
Evans: 2 pts, 5 reb. Minutes will be down a lot this year to somewhere in the mid teens per game.
Smith: 5 pts, 4 reb. Minutes stay about the same in an exclusive backup C role.
Shooter X: 7 pts.
Speights: neglible numbers... does a lot of sitting this season because not enough minutes to go around at the 4/5.

103 pts per game total.
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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#22 » by phiphan » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:53 pm

yashi wrote:Starters
PG - Miller: 13 pt, 7.5 ast, 4 reb (35 minutes per game). Points down, assists up. This one should be a given.
SG - Iguodala: 16 pt, 5 reb, 6 ast (40 minutes per game). Points go down from less shot attempts, but shooting % goes back up towards 50% and assists go up as well. Iggy becomes one of the most efficient players in the league.
SF - Young: 12 pts, 5 reb, 54% (29 minutes per game). Stays an efficient player who lets the game come to him and doesn't force anything for at least 1 more year.
PF - Brand: 19 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (37 minutes per game). Numbers slightly lower than career averages from playing with better talent now.
C - Dalembert: 8 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (33 minutes per game). Points and rebounds slightly down due to playing with a stud next to him.


This looks about right to me.
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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#23 » by PowerElite » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:33 pm

yashi wrote:Starters
PG - Miller: 13 pt, 7.5 ast, 4 reb (35 minutes per game). Points down, assists up. This one should be a given.
SG - Iguodala: 16 pt, 5 reb, 6 ast (40 minutes per game). Points go down from less shot attempts, but shooting % goes back up towards 50% and assists go up as well. Iggy becomes one of the most efficient players in the league.
SF - Young: 12 pts, 5 reb, 54% (29 minutes per game). Stays an efficient player who lets the game come to him and doesn't force anything for at least 1 more year.
PF - Brand: 19 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (37 minutes per game). Numbers slightly lower than career averages from playing with better talent now.
C - Dalembert: 8 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (33 minutes per game). Points and rebounds slightly down due to playing with a stud next to him.

Bench
Lou: 12 pts.
Green: 9 pts.
Evans: 2 pts, 5 reb. Minutes will be down a lot this year to somewhere in the mid teens per game.
Smith: 5 pts, 4 reb. Minutes stay about the same in an exclusive backup C role.
Shooter X: 7 pts.
Speights: neglible numbers... does a lot of sitting this season because not enough minutes to go around at the 4/5.

103 pts per game total.

Those numbers look very realistic, but Jason Smith will get beat out by Speights for playing time. I think that Speights will be the backup C coming out of training camp with Evans being Brand's backup. That soon will turn into Speights being the first reserve big man off of the bench at PF or C. Jason Smith will eventually be the new Calvin Booth while Speights will turn into what Reggie Evans was during the games when Thad and Sam Dalembert started. Speights is better than Jason Smith with a higher ceiling just like Thad is better than Rodney Carney. Seniority will not help Jason Smith...If Jason Smith is playing ahead of Speights then we need to be concerned about Speights development.
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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#24 » by yashi » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:42 pm

PowerElite wrote:
yashi wrote:Starters
PG - Miller: 13 pt, 7.5 ast, 4 reb (35 minutes per game). Points down, assists up. This one should be a given.
SG - Iguodala: 16 pt, 5 reb, 6 ast (40 minutes per game). Points go down from less shot attempts, but shooting % goes back up towards 50% and assists go up as well. Iggy becomes one of the most efficient players in the league.
SF - Young: 12 pts, 5 reb, 54% (29 minutes per game). Stays an efficient player who lets the game come to him and doesn't force anything for at least 1 more year.
PF - Brand: 19 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (37 minutes per game). Numbers slightly lower than career averages from playing with better talent now.
C - Dalembert: 8 pts, 9 reb, 2 blocks (33 minutes per game). Points and rebounds slightly down due to playing with a stud next to him.

Bench
Lou: 12 pts.
Green: 9 pts.
Evans: 2 pts, 5 reb. Minutes will be down a lot this year to somewhere in the mid teens per game.
Smith: 5 pts, 4 reb. Minutes stay about the same in an exclusive backup C role.
Shooter X: 7 pts.
Speights: neglible numbers... does a lot of sitting this season because not enough minutes to go around at the 4/5.

103 pts per game total.

Those numbers look very realistic, but Jason Smith will get beat out by Speights for playing time. I think that Speights will be the backup C coming out of training camp with Evans being Brand's backup. That soon will turn into Speights being the first reserve big man off of the bench at PF or C. Jason Smith will eventually be the new Calvin Booth while Speights will turn into what Reggie Evans was during the games when Thad and Sam Dalembert started. Speights is better than Jason Smith with a higher ceiling just like Thad is better than Rodney Carney. Seniority will not help Jason Smith...If Jason Smith is playing ahead of Speights then we need to be concerned about Speights development.


I agree with most of that like I was saying in the Speights thread, but I don't know he will surpass Smith that soon. I think Cheeks will be reluctant to have Speights ahead of Smith in the depth chart until at least halfway through the season at the earliest. Whether he should or not is a whole different story (which I think he obviously should based on what I've seen so far).

But I definitely agree that Speights will develop into the main backup spelling both Sam and Elton. I can see Evans being traded around the time this happens, and Smith taking over some minuscule minutes.
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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#25 » by PowerElite » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:58 pm

yashi wrote:
I agree with most of that like I was saying in the Speights thread, but I don't know he will surpass Smith that soon. I think Cheeks will be reluctant to have Speights ahead of Smith in the depth chart until at least halfway through the season at the earliest. Whether he should or not is a whole different story (which I think he obviously should based on what I've seen so far).

But I definitely agree that Speights will develop into the main backup spelling both Sam and Elton. I can see Evans being traded around the time this happens, and Smith taking over some minuscule minutes.


Halfway is too long, to me that's like saying that Speights will have a disappointing first season. I think that if Speights doesn't win the job over Smith in training camp and still doesn't do so after a small portion of the season then we have reason for concern regarding his development. I certainly do not believe Jason Smith will play so well that he keeps Speights on the bench. I really think that Smith's competition will eventually be Evans but Evans will get playing time over him for the reason of being showcased before the trade deadline.

Right now I think that Speights has already beat Smith in the Summer League for playing time during the regular season. The preseason games will be the determining factor on who will be the first body off of the bench to sub for Sam Dalembert. Smith may be young but this season he will be playing the role of Booth and Ollie in favor of the young stud with a much higher ceiling and need for playing time. Many Sixer fans already believe that Jason Smith is a career backup, and believe that Speights is a career starter I don't think that the Sixers are going to waste valuable development time by continuing to develop a young bench player in Smith over a projected young career starter in Speights. They already pulled the plug on veteran Reggie Evans for Thad who took his job while playing out of position. It would be a much easier decision for them to do it again with two players that are closer in age and play the same position.
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Re: How does Brand affect player stats next season? Predictions? 

Post#26 » by IggyTheBEaST » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:25 pm

I wouldnt be surprised if our starting lineup nets 80.

Miller - 14
Iggy - 21
Thad - 14
Brand - 21
Daly - 10
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ITBs Dream Team:

Iverson/Iggy/Lebron/Amare/Dwight

I <3 Thaddeous

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